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 marvin
  
Location: On board the Heart of Gold with Zaphod BeebleBrox
 |  |  | Former camp
< on 3/15/2008 4:43 PM >
|  | | | Abandoned camp which may soon become high-end homes
  
[last edit 3/15/2008 4:51 PM by marvin - edited 1 times]
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MHInc
  
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Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 1 on 3/20/2008 11:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by marvin
Abandoned camp which may soon become high-end homes
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FYI
http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0
And it will never be turned into high end homes because the moron that bought it can't get sewage and water into that area. He is stuck, which is why nothing has been developed yet. Talked to a former Easter Seals grounds keeper while I was there taking pics.
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marvin
Location: On board the Heart of Gold with Zaphod BeebleBrox
| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 2 on 3/21/2008 1:56 AM >
| | | | Never say never. They could still build the homes without the water/sewer component. And if the matter ever had to go to the Ontario Municipal Board - well the OMB usually sides with landowners.
It's too bad, because it's a nice place
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 3 on 3/21/2008 2:45 AM >
| | | | Posted by marvin
Never say never. They could still build the homes without the water/sewer component. And if the matter ever had to go to the Ontario Municipal Board - well the OMB usually sides with landowners.
It's too bad, because it's a nice place
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OMB has no say, they can't put in sewage and water lines that close to the Lake there, it's a law, that's why he's screwed. he should be smart. Fix up what is there as summer cottages and rent them! He could make a killing
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fedge
Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 4 on 3/21/2008 11:51 AM >
| | | | ...and fix it up now, lest it become ashatted by vandals.
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 5 on 3/21/2008 12:06 PM >
| | | | Posted by fedge
...and fix it up now, lest it become ashatted by vandals.
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True 
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marvin
Location: On board the Heart of Gold with Zaphod BeebleBrox
| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 6 on 3/21/2008 4:39 PM >
| | | | The owner proposed his own sewage system on site if I remember correctly. I'll have to check. He should fix the cottages and turn them into rentals for sure. He would make good money.
Vandals have hit part of the place, but not all of it.
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 7 on 3/21/2008 8:21 PM >
| | | | Posted by marvin
The owner proposed his own sewage system on site if I remember correctly. I'll have to check. He should fix the cottages and turn them into rentals for sure. He would make good money.
Vandals have hit part of the place, but not all of it.
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Vandals have hit most of it actually...Not sure when you were there but the first visit I made it was almost untouched. That's when I met the old grounds keeper that used to work there. He just keeps an eye on the place, not paid to, just sentimental value I guess. He said he pulled in one day and heard engines in the main hall. When he opened the door he was almost run over by 3 kids on 4 wheelers, they were INSIDE the building tearing it up ( The one with the 2 pianos, and the stage )
Is the owner even ALLOWED to put in his own sewage? And he would also need water as well, I don't think ANYONE can put sewage systems that close to the lake...not 100% sure but that is what I have heard. The guy that bought it's name is Norman Rockwell, not the painter 
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Boffo
 
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| | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 8 on 3/21/2008 9:11 PM >
| | | | There's signs on just about every ones front lawns out by this place saying something about boycotting a plan for sewage and water line out there. If people are protesting against it obviously there's something in the works........
And that room with the two pianos was looking a lil' rough when I went, there were wooden ramps set up and shopping carts thrown around the room. Not to mention a lil makeshift bed set up in the corner with mattress, pillows and blankets.... didn't seem like the right area to have squatters.
And why sleep on a mattress on the floor in that room of all places? There's no shortage of beds -- ugh.
Anyways besides that I didn't think the place was in THAT rough condition.
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marvin
Location: On board the Heart of Gold with Zaphod BeebleBrox
| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 9 on 3/22/2008 1:22 AM >
| | | | Just dug this up. Last bit of news I could find on it, other than letters from angry Wainfleet residents.
Welland Tribune (ON)
Front, Wednesday, September 12, 2007, p. A1
Development approved
Wainfleet council rezones former Lakewood Camp property to allow condominiums
KAESHA FORAND
Tribune Staff
WAINFLEET - The land that once provided an escape for children with disabilities at the former Lakewood Camp will soon be home to 35 $500,000 lakefront condominiums.
Tuesday night, Wainfleet council approved a revised zoning bylaw amendment for the vacant campground on Lakeshore Road to allow Lakewood Beach Properties Ltd., and partners, to build a controversial condominium community based on a slew of holding provisions.
The application was approved subject to rezoning the land to open space and limits the number of dwellings to 35. The holding provisions require that:
- a site plan agreement or condominium agreement and municipal responsibility agreement for the water supply and sewage disposal system;
- a storm water management plan, grading plan and drainage plan satisfactory to the township and Niagara Peninsula Conservation Authority;
- a landscaping plan and a tree preservation plan satisfactory to the township;
- an environmental impact study with habitat preservation plans satisfactory to the township and the Region of Niagara;
- a geotechnical study for the proposed water supply and sewage disposal systems satisfactory to the township and the Ministry of Environment;
- environmental site assessments satisfactory to the township and the Ministry of Environment;
- a transportation impact study satisfactory to the township; and
- parkland dedication satisfactory to the township.
Once the requirements are met, the holding designations will be lifted without further public meeting and construction will be allowed on the 50.2-acre property.
The original proposal would have seen 56 single detached cottage/residential condominium developments, however that number was later reduced to 35 dwellings.
The eastern portion of the property will remain a habitat for the Fowler's toad, the beach will still be accessible to the public and condominiums will be serviced by private sanitation and water purification systems.
"I will appeal to the OMB (Ontario Municipal Board), this is wrong. What they did to us is wrong," said Lakeshore Road resident Lee Bott.
Bott and her husband, whose home backs onto the property, both voiced their objections to the development. They have 20 days to appeal the report to the Ontario Municipal Board.
Norm Rockwell, of Rockwell Development Corp., said if everything goes as planned, construction on the first dwellings could begin as early as next spring.
He said Lakewood Beach Properties is working with numerous consultants and engineering firms to address the sanitary system, topography, landscape, the Fowler's toad, wave upwash and runoff.
He said all the studies are either in the preliminary stages or complete.
He said it will take three to four years to build phase one of the project, which he estimated to be worth about $17 million.
The lakefront condominiums will be valued between $500,000 to $600,000.
Public meetings were previously held on Dec. 12, 2006 and Aug. 14 of this year, where residents had the opportunity to share their support or voice their concerns against the development.
Public comments included concern for the Fowler's Toad, a provincially and nationally threatened species; loss of rural character; the current boil water advisory; building homes on properties less than one acre; the development's impact on water supply; and flooding and public access to the beach, to name a few.
Former Wainfleet residents also attended previous meetings and said a development such as this would encourage them to move back to their hometown.
Upon completion of the township's secondary plan, a proposed phase two would see 21 additional condominiums build with official plan and zoning bylaw amendments.
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MHInc
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 10 on 3/22/2008 1:50 AM >
| | | | That is a LOT of restrictions, they are basically making it impossible...
The environmental assessment alone will not pass. Just wait and see
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marvin
Location: On board the Heart of Gold with Zaphod BeebleBrox
| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 11 on 3/22/2008 3:43 AM >
| | | | It's too bad that we'll have to wait. I'd like to see it just turned into a park. It's too bad Easter Seals and the Township of Wainfleet couldn't come to an agreement. But money rules when you are selling prime land like that.
It would have made a great little natural park for people to enjoy.
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KONG
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Location: Kingston, Ontario
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| | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 12 on 3/22/2008 12:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by Boffo
didn't seem like the right area to have squatters.
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It seems like a great place to take your girlfriend if you lived in the area and don't like fucking in mommy and daddy's house. Much better than the back of an old car.
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MHInc
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| | | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 13 on 3/22/2008 12:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by KONG
It seems like a great place to take your girlfriend if you lived in the area and don't like fucking in mommy and daddy's house. Much better than the back of an old car.
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Yeah agreed, there aren't squatters there...
There are 16 year old kids that aren't allowed to be in the room together with the door closed at mom and dads so they go there.
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Vito81
Location: Ontario
Gender: Male
| | Re: Former camp
<Reply # 14 on 3/23/2008 10:15 PM >
| | | | Yeah, restrictions never seem to work, There are tons of examples where a site will never be allowed to be built on, or demolished, re-zoned, etc, etc, But then all of a sudden a few years later it happens, Same can be said for a lot of industrial sites, look at STC corridor as one simple example
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