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 Zedthefed
 
Location: Rhinebeck, NY
Gender: Male
Not really a fed.
 |  | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 20 on 10/1/2011 6:14 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Starman
Yeah, anyone who thinks a giant rat ghost visited him nightly is definitely someone you should trust.
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lol yeah... but he was 7.
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voyagerfan99
  
Location: Tolland County, Connecticut
Gender: Male
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 21 on 10/2/2011 6:42 PM >
| | | | Downloading the whole episode so I don't have to watch it on YouTube.
Anyway, I'm an Atheist myself, but I believe in the paranormal. I was exploring an abandoned nursing home (Homestead) with a friend of mine. We were alone in the building on the lower level when we heard a female talking. It was quite odd. I have done some research on the matter and others have collected EVP's from that site.
And speaking of Mansfield, I've been meaning to get there for a long time. I've only just figured out where it was a few months ago. Friend of mine is a frequent explorer there and has been looking to take me along.
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fopjn01
  
Location: Springfield Ma. USA
Gender: Male
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 22 on 10/4/2011 1:47 AM >
| | | | A rational paranormal discussion??? Not on my UER.
Ghosts don't exist just like Mansfield Training School doesn't exist. It's all in yer mind.
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BLKMSK
Location: PVD
Gender: Male
If the kids are united.
| |  | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 23 on 10/4/2011 3:27 AM >
| | | | Once, I was wandering alone through one of the old psychiatric hospitals before it got demo'd a little while ago. Something caught my eye, and I froze. I could have sworn I just saw something moving across the ceiling.
But when I looked up, it was just Urbex Tom.
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macgruder
Location: Northern NJ
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 24 on 10/4/2011 7:11 PM >
| | | | I've been to Mansfield, I didn't see any ghosts or anything. The basement of the main hospital building is pretty creepy though.
Maybe people think it's haunted because the television set was on in that one building's basement until they cut the power.
Out of the 40+ places I've been I've never encountered ghosts or orbs or any other thing that would prove supernatural, unless you count the ungodly B.O. of a bum in a powerplant in MD.
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Dimitalus
Location: Cowichan Bay, British Columbia
Gender: Male
My URBEx buddy '92 Seirra, 454
| | | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 25 on 10/5/2011 3:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
The existence of ghosts violates my world view.
When you die: you lose conciseness, then the neurons in your brain stop firing, the gray matter that holds the last of your memories is eventually destroyed and everything that was "you" ceases to exist.
I would be more likely to dismiss an unusual event or strange sound as such and would be more willing to settle for a natural or rational explanation.
The human brain has evolved to recognize patterns and to immediately alert you to things that break the pattern, (lion rustles the leaves in the bushes) putting you in a heightened sense of awareness, then your mind needs to justify this break in normal environmental patterns with some sort of explanation, those who are more prone to latch onto a religious or paranormal beliefs will be inclined to allow their mind to look for their desired explanation and possibly see things that aren't there then affirm what they see with a confirmation bias when they come to a conclusion of what they "really" saw.
Everything I said above is horseshit...
I was raped by the ghosts of Thomas Story Kirkbride and former president Grover Cleveland when I wandered into a Flying Dutchmen-esque version of taunton state hospital.
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I'm not a firm believer but stating what I may, no one knows what happens when you die, a bias opinion is "oh your dead", or "oh ghost exists!" but the case of the matter is, No one knows since says energy doesn't die, all livivng tissues is returned to from where it came (the earth), a ghost could be a memory left behind that had tremendous energy, hence why objects fall from these "aperitions".
I belive there is a presence that exists be it a memory or actually present or just plain energy, because come hell or high water if you alone in an deserted complex you will start to feel uneasy, you know why? because the human brain knows more then it lets on, by that I mean, we only use 10% of our brains mental capacity, so theres a plethoric amount of mental capacity that is unused or un-controlable, hence giving you an almost "sixth sense", but in justification to what you said I kinda agree with the "your mind needs to justify this break in normal environmental patterns with some sort of explanation" which would be as you stated an "hightened sense of awarness" aka a "sixth sense" not to be confused with the movie at all, but in correlation to what i have stated, do not think that energy dies, its there everyone has it, but to say what happens after death is just moronic, no one knows, we only know what we see.
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Before my current employment I worked with antiques, so I have a general knowledge of older items.
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\/adder
 
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 26 on 10/5/2011 10:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by Dimitalus
I'm not a firm believer but stating what I may, no one knows what happens when you die, a bias opinion is "oh your dead", or "oh ghost exists!" but the case of the matter is, No one knows since says energy doesn't die, all livivng tissues is returned to from where it came (the earth), a ghost could be a memory left behind that had tremendous energy, hence why objects fall from these "aperitions".
I belive there is a presence that exists be it a memory or actually present or just plain energy, because come hell or high water if you alone in an deserted complex you will start to feel uneasy, you know why? because the human brain knows more then it lets on, by that I mean, we only use 10% of our brains mental capacity, so theres a plethoric amount of mental capacity that is unused or un-controlable, hence giving you an almost "sixth sense", but in justification to what you said I kinda agree with the "your mind needs to justify this break in normal environmental patterns with some sort of explanation" which would be as you stated an "hightened sense of awarness" aka a "sixth sense" not to be confused with the movie at all, but in correlation to what i have stated, do not think that energy dies, its there everyone has it, but to say what happens after death is just moronic, no one knows, we only know what we see.
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Entropy disagrees with your lingering energy theory.
Gray matter is powered by electrical impulses, but I'm fairly certain it's the gray matter and not the electrical impulses that make up "you" even if it was, without a body, this charged particles would dissipate into the world.
We've seen inside of the smallest parts of atoms, pretty sure if there was a soul we would have found it by now.
We use 100% of our brains, but most of it is dedicated to doing other functions like breathing, blinking, and keeping our hearts beating. People with genius level intellect always have some sort of mental disability or personality flaws to go along with it. Think what it would be like to be Einstein around people of normal IQ ... that's gotta create some serious interpersonal problems.
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"Go all the way or walk away"
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Zedthefed
Location: Rhinebeck, NY
Gender: Male
Not really a fed.
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 27 on 10/6/2011 8:32 AM >
| | | | Well for one thing with our current technology there is no way to adhere to the scientific method as strictly as biology or chemistry does. That is why most scientists call paranormal research pseudoscience. There are quite a few theories that actually make a lot of sense and are entwined to quantum mechanics and high level quantum physics. Most if not all quantum mechanics theories involve accepting new and/or changing the laws of physics.
One theory is the Multiverse Theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse. It has been suggested that it is possible to travel 'sideways' in time to these 'parallel universes'. If that is true then it's possible that extreme emotional energy (which always seems to be present in hauntings and their locations) could create tiny holes in time and 'leak' through.
Another theory is more closely related to the current discussion of consciousness and energy destruction. This theory states that consciousness (also known as the soul) is actually linked to the fabric of the universe. That when we die, the information contained in the body becomes part of the universe. If you want the full story just go read this overview by one of the researchers who came up with it. It's actually a pretty good read. http://www.quantum....org/overview.html
I'm tired so I'm just going to copy and past the last theory from wikipedia.
Stone Tape Theory speculates that inanimate materials can absorb some form of energy from living beings; the hypothesis speculates that this "recording" happens especially during moments of high tension, such as murder, or during intense moments of someone's life. This stored energy can be released, resulting in a display of the recorded activity. According to this hypothesis, ghosts are not spirits but simply non-interactive recordings similar to a movie. Paranormal investigators commonly consider such phenomena as residual hauntings.
There are quite a few more but these are the big ones.
Oh and to the poster above me... | charged particles would dissipate into the world. |
Why do you think there are no Roman ghosts? Or caveman ghosts? Most reported ghosts are from the last 200-300 years. Any older ones are either some sort of unknown entity or occupy an area with lots of excess energy to feed off of. (see: Ley lines)
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Dimitalus
Location: Cowichan Bay, British Columbia
Gender: Male
My URBEx buddy '92 Seirra, 454
| | | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 28 on 10/6/2011 11:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
Entropy disagrees with your lingering energy theory.
Gray matter is powered by electrical impulses, but I'm fairly certain it's the gray matter and not the electrical impulses that make up "you" even if it was, without a body, this charged particles would dissipate into the world.
We've seen inside of the smallest parts of atoms, pretty sure if there was a soul we would have found it by now.
We use 100% of our brains, but most of it is dedicated to doing other functions like breathing, blinking, and keeping our hearts beating. People with genius level intellect always have some sort of mental disability or personality flaws to go along with it. Think what it would be like to be Einstein around people of normal IQ ... that's gotta create some serious interpersonal problems.
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Not being a dick, also im not saying boogie woogies exist, but Energy will linger, but not for very long. Energy needs continual triangulation between the energy they were composed of and the intent they were created with. Once this triangulation of energy ceases, the object itself begins to lose a percentage of its energy day by day until, at some point in the not so distant future.
It is part of the inherent relationship that we provide energy to each other. If the energy from something dead be it even a plant oddly enough will in fact linger until it dissipates it all depends on the amount of energy and if there is in fact something that the energy can triangulate itself with.
it is necessary to spread out a greater amount of energy (as heat) across the remainder of the universe "the surroundings". Simpler organisms can achieve higher energy efficiencies than more complex ones, but the complex organisms can occupy ecological niches that are not available to their simpler brethren.
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Before my current employment I worked with antiques, so I have a general knowledge of older items.
"Never fear shadows. They simply mean there's a light shining somewhere nearby. Ruth E. Renkel" |
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Crypton
Gender: Male
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 29 on 10/6/2011 1:51 PM >
| | | | Not being a dick, also im not saying boogie woogies exist, but Energy will linger, but not for very long. Energy needs continual triangulation between the energy they were composed of and the intent they were created with. Once this triangulation of energy ceases, the object itself begins to lose a percentage of its energy day by day until, at some point in the not so distant future.
It is part of the inherent relationship that we provide energy to each other. If the energy from something dead be it even a plant oddly enough will in fact linger until it dissipates it all depends on the amount of energy and if there is in fact something that the energy can triangulate itself with. |
Right, that's why Power Balance bracelets exists!
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Seriously people?? Energy in people is the combination of chemicals in the brain and the nerve response. Read the fucking Biology books for once and learn that once you die, that's it.
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Esoterik
Location: Kansas City
Gender: Male
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 30 on 10/6/2011 1:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Crypton
Right, that's why Power Balance bracelets exists!
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Seriously people?? Energy in people is the combination of chemicals in the brain and the nerve response. Read the fucking Biology books for once and learn that once you die, that's it.
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I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
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Zedthefed
Location: Rhinebeck, NY
Gender: Male
Not really a fed.
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 31 on 10/6/2011 5:53 PM >
| | | | | Read the fucking Biology books for once and learn that once you die, that's it. |
You do know that they have to amend text books every few years to fix all the things that they realized they got wrong, right?
Did you even read the Quantum Consciousness Theory?
"Consciousness defines our existence and reality. But how does the brain generate thoughts and feelings? Most explanations portray the brain as a computer, with nerve cells ("neurons") and their synaptic connections acting as simple switches, or "bits" which interact in complex ways. In this view consciousness is said to "emerge" as a novel property of complex interactions among neurons, as hurricanes and candle flames emerge from complex interactions among gas and dust molecules. However this approach fails to explain why we have feelings and awareness, an "inner life". So we don't know how the brain produces consciousness."
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BLKMSK
Location: PVD
Gender: Male
If the kids are united.
| | | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 32 on 10/6/2011 5:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Zedthefed
So we don't know how the brain produces consciousness.
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I imagine that it probably comes about the same way as techno music. It's just there.
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Zedthefed
Location: Rhinebeck, NY
Gender: Male
Not really a fed.
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 33 on 10/6/2011 6:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by BLKMSK
I imagine that it probably comes about the same way as techno music. It's just there.
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lol exactly, but that's not good enough for some people. 
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Crypton
Gender: Male
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 34 on 10/6/2011 7:01 PM >
| | | | | Did you even read the Quantum Consciousness Theory? |
Bits and parts. However, everyone is born pretty much the same (same mindset), your childhood surroundings pretty much define who you will be in the future. Therefore, a brain is just a big chip that at birth has a very simple program running that develops further with age gaining certain qualities and specifics that define you as you.
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BLKMSK
Location: PVD
Gender: Male
If the kids are united.
| | | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 35 on 10/6/2011 7:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by Crypton
Bits and parts. However, everyone is born pretty much the same (same mindset), your childhood surroundings pretty much define who you will be in the future. Therefore, a brain is just a big chip that at birth has a very simple program running that develops further with age gaining certain qualities and specifics that define you as you.
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So, Human Consciousness ≈ Unix?
BLKMSK/PVD, Post-Industrial (tumblr), Flickr
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Crypton
Gender: Male
| | Re: paranormal witness show. syfy. mansfield training school.
<Reply # 36 on 10/6/2011 7:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by BLKMSK
So, Human Consciousness ≈ Unix?
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Without the patching ;)
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