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tekriter
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Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.
| | | Religion of Peace: Stoning < on 7/10/2010 5:24 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I don't know if anyone has been following the story of the Iranian woman sentenced to death by stoning for adultery: http://www.guardia...ning-death-penalty They might mean showering someone with "love" rocks to demonstrated forgiveness and peace, but most of the people I've seen stoned had their heads bashed in. For peace. The Koran says Adultery is illegal, however never mentions stoning: 24:2 The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. The Hadith mentions it several times, firmly entrenching stoning in Sharia law, for example: Volume 3, Book 50, Number 885: Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid Al-Juhani: A bedouin came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's apostle! I ask you by Allah to judge My case according to Allah's Laws." His opponent, who was more learned than he, said, "Yes, judge between us according to Allah's Laws, and allow me to speak." Allah's Apostle said, "Speak." He (i .e. the bedouin or the other man) said, "My son was working as a laborer for this (man) and he committed illegal sexual intercourse with his wife. The people told me that it was obligatory that my son should be stoned to death, so in lieu of that I ransomed my son by paying one hundred sheep and a slave girl. Then I asked the religious scholars about it, and they informed me that my son must be lashed one hundred lashes, and be exiled for one year, and the wife of this (man) must be stoned to death." Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, I will judge between you according to Allah's Laws. The slave-girl and the sheep are to be returned to you, your son is to receive a hundred lashes and be exiled for one year. You, Unais, go to the wife of this (man) and if she confesses her guilt, stone her to death." Unais went to that woman next morning and she confessed. Allah's Apostle ordered that she be stoned to death. Islam is a religion of peace, though, so only peaceful stonings please.
| It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. Robert A. Heinlen |
| MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
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| | | | Re: Religion of Peace: Stoning < Reply # 4 on 7/11/2010 12:18 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by tekriter Well, if we are getting rid of stuff, why don't we start with unreasonable ideas. ...and how about calling BS when people say Islam is a religion of peace.
| Agreed, but let's start with something a bit more important, like calling BS on making any political decisions based on any religion.
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| tekriter
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Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.
| | | Re: Religion of Peace: Stoning < Reply # 7 on 7/12/2010 6:57 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by splumer
No religion is a religion of peace. Any system based on ideas so wildly irrational cannot be peaceful.
| Seems that there is a light at the end of the tunnel - Iran has postponed her stoning, bowing to international public opinion. Good thing they already lashed her with the peace whip. Oh, wait, the light went out again. Harakat al-Shabaab Mujahideen an insurgent islamist jihad terrorist group killed 74 people and another 60 were wounded when two bombs were detonated in Uganda. Religion of peace. Pipe bombs made with love and peace that produce wellness fragments to rip people peaceful holes. Especially the kids. Anyone that allows special pleading for religious ideas needs to understand that that "tolerance" of unreasonable ideas contributes to making this okay. Those that call themselves moderate muslims bear special responsibility.
| It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. Robert A. Heinlen |
| tekriter
Location: in the Hindu Kush Total Likes: 0 likes
Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.
| | | Re: Religion of Peace: Stoning < Reply # 9 on 7/14/2010 4:46 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Your right for the most part, Buddhism preaches peace and tolerance, but there are buddhist terrorists. Aum Shinrikyo, responsible for 1995 Sarin gas attacks on Tokyo subway. They mixed christian and buddhist teachings - a bit of a stretch, but still.. In Sri Lanka, Sinhala Buddhists attacked, and promoted terrorist attacks against Tamils and Christians. The Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (DKBA) is the militant wing of the Democratic Karen Buddhist Organization (DKBO) in Myanmar (Burma) and are a recognized terrorist group. And no one that studies world war two Japan can doubt that a buddhist culture is capable of promoting violence and hatred. Unreasonable ideas can attach themselves anywhere.
| It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. Robert A. Heinlen |
| tekriter
Location: in the Hindu Kush Total Likes: 0 likes
Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.
| | | Re: Religion of Peace: Stoning < Reply # 11 on 7/15/2010 6:26 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by splumer
True, but one could argue that there's a difference between being a member of a particular religion and being a terrorist, and being a terrorist in the name of your particular religion. The Jains, Quakers and Bahais could be called peaceful religions, but they are in extreme minority.
| Very true. In the case of the karens it is a chicken and egg argument. They are not terrorists because they are buddhists, but they were likely targeted by another group because they were buddhists and then reacted. The problem could well be described as tribalism based on baseless ideas.
| It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. Robert A. Heinlen |
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