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Talisman
Location: Wherever I am when I'm not home. Gender: Male Total Likes: 164 likes
| | | Re: 0rding < Reply # 102 on 8/7/2012 7:32 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by decrepitude Once again Talisman, nice job. I've never walked this part of the base. Considering the sheer size and scope I think you will continue to find little bits of lost history like this. I'm not scared of ticks or kitties, its those pesky munitions I hate.
| Honestly, I try and stay away from those areas that are marked as containing UXO's. Besides, the area around the dry creek bed was used mostly for what they called "man versus man reaction training", which involved no live rounds, evident by the massive amount of blank cartridges laying around out there. It's well worth the effort and risk if you are thinking about it. 1. Speaking of which.. Iphone..sorry. I was hoping to find some AK cartridges there, but being out there alone my head was constantly on a swivel, and digging around in the grass with my head down seemed inappropriate at the time.
[last edit 8/7/2012 7:55 PM by Talisman - edited 3 times]
| What we get from this adventure is just sheer joy, and joy is, after all the end of life. We do not live to eat and make money, we eat and make money to be able to live. That is what life means and what life is for. - George Mallory. |
| Talisman
Location: Wherever I am when I'm not home. Gender: Male Total Likes: 164 likes
| | | Re: 0rding < Reply # 104 on 8/9/2012 3:18 PM > | Reply with Quote
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| What we get from this adventure is just sheer joy, and joy is, after all the end of life. We do not live to eat and make money, we eat and make money to be able to live. That is what life means and what life is for. - George Mallory. |
| FastEddy
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| | | Re: 0rding < Reply # 117 on 8/18/2012 1:21 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | All this info came from a posting on the NorCal forum of MTBR.com Posted by Talisman Hearing more stories of people being threatened with citations and arrest lately. So now no one is allowed on the trails either side of the Gigling access corridor as far as Hennekens Ranch Rd. This is the area that the greedy developers want to build Monterey Downs.
| Great backstory here: http://xasauantoda...ective-punishment/ From MORCA: "Signage Increases on ESCA Property: ESCA Access Corridors Remain the Same FORA, at the request of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and California Department of Toxic Substances Control (DTSC), is increasing signage throughout the ESCA properties. There will be NO CHANGE to the existing Access Corridors. The approved accessible areas remain the same as when the Access Corridors were put in place in 2008. The goal of the increased signage is to clearly mark Access Corridors and closed trails so there is no question as to the areas the public can use. In the coming days, crews will be installing new kiosks with updated maps and new and increased signage along the access corridors throughout the ESCA property. These signs are designed to guide recreationalists onto approved Access Corridors, designate closed areas and trails, and identify areas where field crews are active in munitions remediation areas. Access is restricted on munitions remediation sites for a number of reasons, but the most important is for your safety. As munitions remediation activities dictate, FORA may need to temporarily close Access Corridors for the protection of the public and workers. FORA will announce temporary access corridor closures via Facebook, the FORA ESCA Remediation Program website [[url=http://www.fora-esca-rp.com]www.fora-esca-rp.com[/url]], email, and the ESCA Bulletins. Such closures will be clearly marked in the field with signage. For the safety of everyone, adherence to these restrictions is not a choice; it is mandatory. This is no small matter to FORA, the Army, EPA or DTSC. Trespassing puts one at risk and is an enforceable violation. On lands where past live fire training occurred, munitions can be found anytime, anywhere. All four public agencies are united in their efforts to cleanup up the former Fort Ord all the while maintaining public safety. *Previous ESCA Bulletins can be viewed at: Daily Bulletins " Also there was this note floating around: "All- Today at noon meeting Stan Cook explained the various signs and kiosks in more detail. His basic message was "the rules have not changed, but the signage has"-- the state/fed agencies have oversight over his signs, kiosks and where they are placed. Enforcement will also be ramped up. He confirmed that ROE permits are still in effect and are good only on the designated trails in the permit and the days/times listed in the permit. All MORCA ride leaders/sweeps (and others) should carry the actual ROE permit (9 pp) and I.D. (suggest IMBA/MORCA card). Permit allows guests in addition to a leader and a sweep, who must be MORCA members. Recall, FORA's biggest reqt. from the get-go is insurance (which MORCA had to prove and name FORA as an insured, attached to permit as page 9)."
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