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Dee Ashley
Location: DFW, Texas Gender: Female Total Likes: 1378 likes
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| | | | Re: Permitted Exploration < Reply # 21 on 2/17/2015 3:04 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I don't recall ever formally asking for permission, but I was at a large local construction site once and the security guard noticed me as I was leaving. Unsure of what to do, I just told him the truth. He was not only willing to overlook my being there, he let me come back whenever I wanted, he even told me what times to be watchful for the developers on site and the best view spots! He even had me show him some light painting tricks (although I often couldn't get much done, so I'd sometimes sneak in anyways)! I have another favorite massive construction spot currently that has a night security guy that saw me climb to the roof of one of the structures. He had followed me that evening and scared the hell out of me when I saw him standing there. He has been totally cool and initially followed me that night to make sure I wasn't trying to jump off the building! Anyways, I have since decided that if you can get an "in" with the security guard, the rest is easy. My roommate was a security guard for a year. Judging from her experiences, I'm guessing, most of these people are just happy to talk to a human for a while. If you really want to make them happy, bring them a smoke and a hot beverage. Moral of the Story: The security guard can be your greatest ally.
| I wandered till the stars went dim. |
| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1848 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Permitted Exploration < Reply # 25 on 3/16/2015 1:35 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I just had a permitted exploration yesterday. While in another town, I came across a two story building. Scaffolding covered the back wall where a large hole had been knocked, and boards covered several ground floor windows. All in all, this looked like a textbook abandonment. However, I was not quite sure. There were several signs of occupation, including a pickup truck parked out front and the pounding noises periodically coming from within. I kept an eye on the place throughout the day, before taking yet another perimeter walk. I heard more pounding from around the corner of the building, and walked around to find that it was coming from the pipes, so I dismissed it as old piping in the spring thaw. Just then, I noticed an open door, with more pounding sounds from within. I poked my head inside, and saw a man with a hammer doing some work on one of the rooms. I asked him if I could take a look around inside, and he said that the owner was in the other room, and that I could go in to talk to him. I walked into the other room, and met the owner. He was a large, friendly man. I told him I was interested in old, historical structures, and asked if he would mind me walking around and taking pictures. He said that as long as I was careful and didn't mess with anything, he was fine with it. The main floor was his workshop, but the second floor was not in use. I walked upstairs, and got some cool pictures, which I'll probably post in the next few days. Moral of the story- some people are pretty cool about it, as long as you are upfront and respectful of them and their property.
| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
| FFStudios
Gender: Female Total Likes: 80 likes
| | | Re: Permitted Exploration < Reply # 27 on 4/27/2015 2:29 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | There are many times in which an attempt at legal exploration is a good idea. However, depending on who you are dealing with, your diligence must vary. For example, there was a very high profile school in my town that was scheduled to be razed. I sent an e-mail and mailed a letter to the Director of Facilities (whose name was Steve) inquiring about access to the building one last time before it was torn down. My first attempt was fruitless; I never received a response from the guy. So I waited a few months. And then, once it became certain that demolition would begin in the next year or two, I e-mailed him again. This time I was met with a seven word reply: "FFStudios, Call me to arrange access (***)-***-**** Steve" We met in the parking lot of the building and he unlocked the front door and disengaged the security system. What he did next was something that astounds me to this day. He looked at me and my friend and said "I've got to go do some work, so feel free to spend as long as you want in the building. Just call me when you're done so I know to come back and lock it up." He trusted us with complete access to the building for an almost unlimited amount of time. The only trouble we had was a wary neighbor who shouted at us as we ascended onto the roof. After our exploration, I made sure I walked over to where the neighbor was sitting on his porch to explain that I had gotten permission, etc. just to ease his mind. He knew the Director of Facilities personally and even gave me some history on the school, as he had lived next to it for over 30 years. But I can guarantee that nobody else has been in that building since and without that e-mail, we would have never seen the insides.
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| CooperArt
Location: Lansing Total Likes: 14 likes
| | | Re: Permitted Exploration < Reply # 28 on 5/10/2015 4:15 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I tried to get permission for the Plainwell Paper Mill, because it was right next to the police station. (Now the police station is closer to it, and City Hall is inside it.) What I did is I went to City Hall, and asked the receptionist who to ask. She gave me a name, and I never managed to get a hold of the guy. (Now I'm much more dogged and I'd have tried harder, and probably would have gotten permission.) I had answers planned for when I talked to him, for things like: "I know what areas to avoid, the map on the site says these areas are too dangerous to go near, so I won't go near those areas" and so on. "I'm doing this because I'm an artist and I want to record this place for posterity." She said people ask all the time, and not many people got permission. I imagine I'm one of the less helpful answers, but that was my one attempt.
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| raddhatter
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| | | Re: Permitted Exploration < Reply # 31 on 6/23/2015 4:45 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Moral of the Story: The security guard can be your greatest ally.
| This brings to mind one memorable, quirky (and only semi-irrelevant) experience I had while browsing rooftops on a college campus. (The recreational complex has a domed/steepled rooftop). The three of us were doing an initial pass-by to get a feel for access when we noticed a guard...a local cop who camped out in the rec complex's parking lot overnight and did a few drive-by patrols. Two things 1) he wasn't a rent-a-cop he was a Mr. Police "Yessir" Officer, ya feel? 2) Since we had caaaasually walked by the first time, we decided to completely bypass him on the way back so as to not draw attention. We hopped two fences and scrambled our way through a baseball stadium, circled back behind him and the rec complex, and made our way to the roof. It was insanely well lit after dark, our binoculars and dark clothing looked suspicious, and the cop was basically underneath us. Avoiding detection became more fun than it was necessary, and we decided to see how close we could get to him/his car without being conspicuous. Eventually we ditched the rooftops altogether, opting to follow the cop around campus instead. Basically stalking him, we followed him into the student center. Alas! Upon entry, he was no where to be found. For about ten minutes we walked around, inquired to those who were doing some late-night studying, but no one had seen him. On one last whimsical walkabout, we turned a corner and BAM like a brick wall he was there! We felt confronted! Exposed! There he was. Walking out of the bathroom. Where he had been. For the last ten minutes. I didn't stay long enough to find out if he had lit a match.
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