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terapr0
Location: Sauga City Gender: Male Total Likes: 341 likes
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| | | | Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility) < Reply # 8 on 4/13/2015 9:05 PM >
| | | Ugh, this is so fucking pathetic - how and why did this conversation come back to stickers / tagging / wheatpaste?? Did you see a single photo or any mention of any of the above in his post here, or within the full thread on his website? No, you didnt. So why must you persist in coming into Jerm's threads and busting his balls over things he did not do? He did not vandalize this building, nor was doing so implied or condoned. I understand that some of you might not like the stickers he's been posting up in Peterborough, and I'd suggest that if it bothers you so much you contact the city to discuss the matter with them. They'll likely be as eager to pursue him as they are to stop the many businesses that do this as a way of advertising. If they can't be bothered to shut down a roofing company who posts up their sign on a traffic pole, what makes you think they care about his stickers? As a moderator I (and all the others) would be compelled to take action if you posted evidence of him actively vandalizing an abandoned building, but what he does in a public space is decidedly outside the purview of this website. The moderators have already discussed this and Av made his decision, so why don't you quit being a bunch of butt-hurt fairies and just stop clicking on his threads if he bothers you so much? Me and lots of others around here actually enjoy his contributions. You know it's funny - I've just spent some time looking through the post history of some of Jerms most vocal detractors. Ironic how little meaningful content they actually contribute here, despite being such outspoken defendants of this community. Maybe you should spend less time whining about Jerm's accomplishments and more time, I don't know, actually exploring? Let me guess you're all so elitist that you explore but just don't post about it? If that's the case, then why are you even here?
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Location: Sauga City Gender: Male Total Likes: 341 likes
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| | | | Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility) < Reply # 15 on 4/14/2015 4:07 PM >
| | | Posted by Harvestman Because really, let's call a spade a spade here. Putting stickers, paint, wheatpaste, etc. on things is vandalism.
| Well if we're choosing to employ a literal interpretation of the word, then writing your name on a chalkboard is still vandalism, in which case I'm a vandal, and I'm guessing you are too. I have photos of chalkboards inside abandonments in the GTA that would condemn half the members on the Ontario forum as vandals. van·dal·ism ˈvandlˌizəm/ noun noun: vandalism "action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property." Explain to me how writing on a chalk board is any less invasive or unwanted than posting a sticker up inside of the same room? They are both removable, they are both unwanted and they would both surely be characterized as "vandalism" by a concerned property owner. Both a sticker and a name written in chalk are clear signs of a breach in security and both have a very real potential to get the location "locked down". Moreso, in both instances you're already guilty of trespassing, so how can you justify getting so preachy and righteous? It's outright hypocrisy to condone your preferred means of vandalism while crucifying someone else for theirs. Let's call a spade a spade here and admit that you're a vandal too, and a trespasser to boot. Glass houses anyone?? And Zen - As someone who's married, with a mortgage, OSAP payments, two car payments, insurance payments, volunteer commitments and a small business that see's me work 60-70+ hrs a week I'm hugely sympathetic to the plight of the working man (or woman). When I was in university I was out exploring sometimes two or three times a week - these days I'm lucky to get out once a month! I wasnt talking about people like us (as I know you're in a similar boat), I was talking about those around here that are active explorers but just choose not to post any photos or writeups because of some elitist attitude towards sharing. They contribute nothing other than insults, yet feel entitled to criticize others who actually share with the community. Quite frankly I think that's bullshit and that they should either put up, shut up or fuck off. Ultimately, nobody is forced to read Jerm's threads, and if they don't like him or what he does I suggest they stop clicking and stop attacking him at every turn. I for one enjoy reading his posts and think it would be a damned shame to see hypocritical trolls chase off an enthusiastic member of this vibrant community. TLDR version: if you don't like JermIX or his threads, stop reading/replying them. Just mt $0.02 on the matter. I'm going to try hard not to reply to this any further as I don't enjoy beating dead horses.
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