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| | | Re: Anti-Hell Hole Devices < Reply # 3 on 6/28/2016 11:15 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Stay near the walls and if it is visibly sagging then nope out of that. As far as probing them, I suppose you could try a stick or something? I haven't bothered to try probing for holes like that. The key problem would be weight difference between what you weigh and what you can test with. I'm not sure I'd trust a stick to do much more than brush off leaves to make sure it isn't just a covered hole. If you felt like carrying around your weight in a boulder that would be exceedingly funny, so take video if you do something like that. Best practices if you put probing aside (perhaps somebody else has an actual idea on how to do that) would be something like keep your headphones out and listen for anything that doesn't sound... right (timbers groaning, etc), if you run into one 30 foot hole it is probably safe to say there will be more so move slower, send someone in ahead of you as a canary. I'm also all for a tether to a couple of other explorers if you are expecting it to be bad and have company. If you have 3+ people the odds of one pulling the rest down with them are smaller, and with a tether long enough to give breathing room but short enough to prevent a crippling/fatal fall I think it is a lot safer (note: I haven't done anything with a tether or where there are lots of open holes, this is purely my speculation). I'd imagine there will be people vehemently against and who will agree and who will say a tether doesn't matter. For the uber paranoid, bring some rope and some gear. For everyone else, common sense should be sufficient. Or just be me and don't go near places with hell holes cause I don't need that kind of stress in my life (even if you don't get hurt in a fall, don't wanna damage that $$$$ camera or lens). tl;dr Use your brain and if you get a bad feeling about something I'm all for following that right out the POE and down the road (or if someone else isn't comfortable, humoring them and coming back later if you still want to try).
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| | | | Re: Anti-Hell Hole Devices < Reply # 7 on 7/9/2016 3:11 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by IntrepEd Alright, thank you guys. Blackhawk, I'm going to try my best to keep photography and movement separate, like you suggested on your thread. I'll have to find a sturdy hiking stick to prod the ground and sift the trash before we go. I don't feel like spending hours playing minesweeper with sticks will be necessary on all my journeys, but for this particular one I'd like to be as cautious as possible.
| The walking stick is more useful for finding open holes and snakes, not for probing structures. It's prime use is as a walking aid in rough terrains or navigating sand dunes. It's a good defense for feral hogs and dogs. Never assume a structure is sound and solid. One hellhole can change your life forever. As many here have learned, myself included, structures most times fail when you have all your weigh on them. If you're fast and lucky, you might react in time to get off the collapsing portion. Many times that's not what happens especially if you step into air... blackness isn't always solid.
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