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hannahmontana
Location: King County, Washington Gender: Female Total Likes: 14 likes
| | | Nike Missile Base < on 5/26/2019 7:51 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Photos from my visit in 2015. I'm sure many of you have been here. I heard this all got demolished recently - anyone know about that? I'd be pretty bummed. I didn't fully appreciate its history at the time and I'd like to go back before another piece of history is wiped out. Edit: It seems it was demolished shortly afterwards ( source). :'( 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18.
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| /-/ooligan
Location: Las Vegas area Gender: Male Total Likes: 279 likes
When in danger, when in doubt, RUN IN CIRCLES, SCREAM AND SHOUT!
| | | Re: Nike Missile Base < Reply # 9 on 11/5/2019 12:31 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Aran
At least here in the Midwest, Nike bases tend to come in two separate sites per base- the launch site itself (with the underground launch tubes), and a control site (with the radar facilities) usually some distance away from the launch site. This was so one airstrike couldn't take out the entire Nike base.
| The physical separation of the Integrated Fire Control (aka RADAR & Control) and Launch Battery (Underground missile storage [raised to the surface on elevators for launch, not launched from underground like ICBMs], above-ground maintenance & arming bldgs, etc) was not to increase survivability, it was done so that the Missile Tracking RADAR, which provided launch command & guidance to the missiles, could track the missiles both while in launch position and once in-flight. The analogy is like trying to keep a flashlight shined on a flying bee -- if you're just a foot away from the bee, you've got to move your arm a fast & often to continue to track it with the light, but if you're 10 away, you're not having to move your arm as much to keep the bee illuminated. Secondary to that, were real-estate concerns -- buying two 5-acre parcels of land could have been easier than one 10-acre parcel. Plus, the IFC needed to be on relatively high-ground for RADAR coverage, whereas the IFC could be on low ground, as long as it had line of sight to the Missile Tracking RADAR. In some cases, the IFC & Launch Battery were adjacent but about 1000' yards apart, in other cases, the IFC was atop a mountain and the launch battery was several miles away. The Admin section (offices, barracks, recreation facilities, etc.) could be yet a third parcel in the the area, or may have been adjacent. /-/ooligan
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| Explorer Zero
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| | | | Re: Nike Missile Base < Reply # 10 on 11/5/2019 2:45 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by /-/ooligan
The physical separation of the Integrated Fire Control (aka RADAR & Control) and Launch Battery (Underground missile storage [raised to the surface on elevators for launch, not launched from underground like ICBMs], above-ground maintenance & arming bldgs, etc) was not to increase survivability, it was done so that the Missile Tracking RADAR, which provided launch command & guidance to the missiles, could track the missiles both while in launch position and once in-flight. The analogy is like trying to keep a flashlight shined on a flying bee -- if you're just a foot away from the bee, you've got to move your arm a fast & often to continue to track it with the light, but if you're 10 away, you're not having to move your arm as much to keep the bee illuminated. Secondary to that, were real-estate concerns -- buying two 5-acre parcels of land could have been easier than one 10-acre parcel. Plus, the IFC needed to be on relatively high-ground for RADAR coverage, whereas the IFC could be on low ground, as long as it had line of sight to the Missile Tracking RADAR. In some cases, the IFC & Launch Battery were adjacent but about 1000' yards apart, in other cases, the IFC was atop a mountain and the launch battery was several miles away. The Admin section (offices, barracks, recreation facilities, etc.) could be yet a third parcel in the the area, or may have been adjacent.
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| All true but what a lot of people forget is they had two radar systems linked together by analog computers of the time, one to guide the Nike and one to track the incoming bombers. They needed a clear view of the horizon to "track" and shoot at incoming aircraft 120mi downrange which was their primary mission. Nikes were eventually tested against incoming ballistic missiles but while they were successful they were not ideal to launch when seconds counted on fast moving targets, i.e.. elevator time, target acquisition time even something like 17min crew time to prep and launch all that weighed against the Nike in an anti-missile role. I love the Nike story I saw a display of Nikes at a local shopping mall (Bigtown in Mesquite) when I was a kid. And lived through the nuclear threat of the Soviet Union. It was constantly on the evening news and my parents and neighbor many of whom were veterans talked about it. I knew even as a kid doing duck and cover drills at school that was not going to help if a Soviet bomber made it through the "Ring Of Steel"
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| aaronni
Location: South Puget Sound Total Likes: 81 likes
| | | Re: Nike Missile Base < Reply # 19 on 4/10/2020 3:26 AM > | Reply with Quote
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