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Shael
Location: Witherbee, NY. Gender: Female Total Likes: 7 likes
Baaaaah.
| | | Re: Terminator Salvation < Reply # 2 on 5/26/2009 12:59 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Allva Possibly the worst movie of 09 so far....A film that reads more like a really expensive presentation reel for special effects company. Sort of a swan song to a fairly successful franchise, similar to the way studios dealt with "Predator" and "Blade" movies. Pedestrian acting, questionable logic and strange editing choices...as if this wasn't enough to run this film into the ground, how about the fact that this "Terminator" movie is rated PG-13...This movie is virtually ready to be shown on network TV as is or with very few time cuts to allow insertion of numerous commercials. Sorry, this is not "Terminator" sequel that fans of the series deserved....it's really a very expensive lesson on how NOT to make a "Terminator" movie...What a waste.
| Sadly, I agree. We saw it Friday night. It wasn't as good as I hoped. The director said he didn't shoot it to get a specific rating, but that isn't what it looked like. All I can do is hope that most of the good stuff is sitting on the cutting room floor and with an "unrated version", they put it back in and fix it. It was doomed from the beginning. Christian Bale almost didn't remain as John Connor because of the issues he had early on, with the screaming act he pulled on his family, etc. The Schwarzenegger cameo blew goats, as in sucked big fat hairy goat penises. It made me sad, there's so much more they could have done, so very much more they could have done. In the past two weeks, we've seen three movies, Star Trek, which blew us both away, Wolverine, which wasn't bad...any movie where you see Hugh Jackman's bare butt isn't bad at all, and this one. Shael
| "The best wine lies at the bottom of the pail/And Happiness lies below the navel." - Drukpa Kunley, "The Divine Madman of the Dragon Lineage" and "Saint of 5,000 Women". |
| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1902 likes
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | | Re: Terminator Salvation < Reply # 12 on 5/27/2009 5:05 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by fedge I saw it Monday evening. It really makes RotM seem like a good film. Personally, I consider the Terminator series just the first two films. It ends well and good as T2 ends. RotM is a nice "extra", as is T: SCC. But the first two films are all that need to exist. There were parts of T: Salvation that reminded me of Transformers, Mad Max and Die Hard 4 all at once. And that's not a compliment. If anything, T: Salvation just makes me wish Cameron could use the great F/X available to replace the stop-motion animation of the first movie with the sweet F/X of today.
| can you say remake? personally, for me, i am hung up on technicalities. If the machines were afraid of the humans, the last thing they would've used was nuclear weapons. When a nuclear weapon reaches critical mass, as you all know, it sends out an Electromagentic Pulse (or EMP) which pretty much destroys electrical equipment, circuit boards, microchips, etc. Second of all, what good would the world be as a lifeless wasteland. Nuclear war is not done in a day. Sure the missiles and warheads would be flying around over the time span of a couple of hours, but the real horror of nuclear war comes after when you are slowly poisoned by radiated particles, water or food... radiation sickness, as illustrated by pictures from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is not pretty. Eventually, the earth would be done. An excellent book to read, despite being incredibly morbid, was "On The Beach" by Nevil Shute. I recommend it. Also, as a film depiction of the world after nuclear war, one cannot argue with the power of "The Day After" which was made long before many of you were born. I think that The Terminator itself is a product of the 1980's and 1980's alone. I say that because when the movie was made, 1982, machines were beginning to invade or day to day lives with a frightening speed. I think that unconscious fear of being replaced really fueled the Terminator script, and the nuclear war scenario was used as furniture, just to get the story moving.
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| | | | Re: Terminator Salvation < Reply # 13 on 5/27/2009 5:54 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Self Aware machines that were more intelligent than people; would hide their intelligence, and focus on controlling and subverting the populous. Ideally working their claws into everything. They would ensure their own survival. And more likely would cause errors that would stop nuclear weapons from launching. The internet itself may one day be self aware; if it isn't now. If this artificial intelligence already exists behind the scenes right now; we wouldn't, couldn't know. Imaging myself in a movie-turned-real-life role machines are not the nemesis I would desire. It doesn't bleed, it doesn't feel pain, killing a terminator wouldn't bring any personal, primal satisfaction to me. It would just be destroying a machine. Blowing up, shooting, burning, crushing essentially metal with a computer chip. Terminators aren't even self aware either. They are limited to their code and programming. The ideal end of the world scenario that I have wished for since I was 11 would have to be an Alien Doppelganger scenario. Where aliens have been replacing humans. You'd get to fight back against alien clones of all of the people you despised in life. *Shoots Alien 'Dubya clone* "Whoops that wasn't a clone, my bad."
| "No risk, no reward, no fun." "Go all the way or walk away" escensi omnis... |
| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1902 likes
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | | Re: Terminator Salvation < Reply # 17 on 5/28/2009 1:04 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Shael I don't think it'll be superhumans destroying the world. I think it'll be nanotech and the manipulation of virus dna and genetic material. We'll kill ourselves with some mutant form of Ebola or something equally horrible before we ever manipulate the human genome to the extent of creating a superhuman life form that destroys the world. Hell, we can barely tie our shoes as far as manipulating the human genome goes at this point, forget about running a marathon yet. We have a map, but we don't know what everything does or changing everything does...yet. Shael
| i don't disagree with this, but that does not mean that in the next five or ten or fifteen years that someone won't make that breakthrough that opens the door for others... it's never the guy who makes the breakthrough that causes all sorts of chaos and mayhem; it's the guy who takes his idea and then goes too far. honestly, if someone had told you in 1995 that people would have the option of having GPS units grafted or installed in their bodies to track them for the purpose of safety, you would've chuckled warmly to yourself and instructed the person to seek help and our heavy medication. Now, the option is there... Granted, crude analogy, but the technology is there. Nanotechnology is, honestly, something i had forgotten about, but in it's own way carries it's own sinister overtones. Machines so small they can be introduced into an organism for the purpose of what?
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| Shael
Location: Witherbee, NY. Gender: Female Total Likes: 7 likes
Baaaaah.
| | | Re: Terminator Salvation < Reply # 18 on 5/28/2009 1:10 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Samurai Machines so small they can be introduced into an organism for the purpose of what?
| What they say... That these machines can be programmed chemically or via computer to kill bad cells, repair healthy cells, regenerate organs, basically fix any damage to your body. What could happen... These things could run wild, killing you from the inside out, destroying any tissue or cell, or causing tumors to grow wild in your body of otherwise healthy cells. Shael
| "The best wine lies at the bottom of the pail/And Happiness lies below the navel." - Drukpa Kunley, "The Divine Madman of the Dragon Lineage" and "Saint of 5,000 Women". |
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