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Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
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| | | Re: so i think i am an atheist. < Reply # 8 on 3/24/2012 7:56 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by MrGreenJeans atheists cant believe in karma or a collective mind. Anything which can't be proven by science is faith, and atheism rejects faith of any kind. There either is something supernatural, or there is not.
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| underdark
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| | | Re: so i think i am an atheist. < Reply # 9 on 3/26/2012 1:31 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by MrGreenJeans atheists cant believe in karma or a collective mind. Anything which can't be proven by science is faith, and atheism rejects faith of any kind.
| Ummm, no. Thanks for playing, we have lovely parting gifts for you. But you have no idea what you are talking about. Atheism-rejection of the belief in deities. Theism-the belief in one (or more) deities. Monotheism-belief in a single deity. Polytheism-belief in more than one deity. You see the pattern here right? All these words come from Greek. All have the same base, because all deal with the same issue. Gods. Not karma or collective unconscious or ghosts or ESP or Or any other supernatural foolishness. Just gods. You can believe anything else you want and be an atheist. You simply don't do gods. Period. I recall having to lecture you on the scientific and social contributions of ancient Greece before. Now we are on Greek word derivation. Do you need a reading list?
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| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
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| | | Re: so i think i am an atheist. < Reply # 10 on 3/26/2012 2:27 AM > | Reply with Quote
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| MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
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| | | | Re: so i think i am an atheist. < Reply # 13 on 3/26/2012 2:36 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Words are woefully inadequate for describing beliefs, but if someone were to claim to be an atheist, they should believe that there are no gods. Technically, it is a rejection of a belief in gods, but Bob's your uncle. I rather firmly believe that there are no gods, at least in the sense that most people define gods. At the very least, I am quite comfortable saying that there are no conscious gods. I don't believe in Karma or ghosts or any of the other standard spiritual supernatural tropes, but I have some suspicion that things are connected in ways in which we have absolutely no comprehension; maybe all matter, maybe all living things, who knows.... If so, than those connections/interactions/etc are probably partly responsible for some of the commonality of archetypes and themes throughout cultures and religions, although I see no reason why all of that cannot be explained through a natural function of meme evolution dependent upon patterns of consciousness that were developed themselves as a result of natural selection.
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| | | Re: so i think i am an atheist. < Reply # 14 on 3/26/2012 3:24 PM > | Reply with Quote
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| tekriter
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Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.
| | | Re: so i think i am an atheist. < Reply # 18 on 3/30/2012 2:06 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by splumer
In fairness, most atheists reject all belief in the supernatural, including karma. An atheist who believed in ghosts would get ridiculed, or at least challenged in their belief. Also, most atheists, including Richard Dawkins, are technically agnostic, in that they allow for the possibility that a god might exist, but those who self-identify as atheists believe the chances for that are incredibly unlikely.
| Dawkins and others use the term "weak" atheism to describe the concept of allowing for the possibility of a god, while not finding any reason to believe in a god. This is compatible with the concept of not being able to prove a negative. "Strong" atheism on the other hand is the absolute denial of the existence of god. This is slightly less honest intellectually, but in practice, given our collective wisdom and the sheer number of possibilities, it is probably pretty safe to assert, for all intents and purposes, that there is no god.
| It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. Robert A. Heinlen |
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