...for the fourth year in a row!

http://www.cars.co...i&story=amMade0712

"Cars.com’s American-Made Index rates vehicles built and bought in the U.S. Factors include sales, where the car’s parts come from and whether the car is assembled in the U.S. We disqualify models with a domestic parts content rating below 75 percent, models built exclusively outside the U.S. or models soon to be discontinued without a U.S.-built successor."

Here are the 10 most American vehicles and where they're made:

1.Toyota Camry, Georgetown, Ky., and Lafayette, Ind.
2.Ford F-150, Dearborn, Mich., and Claycomo, Mo.
3.Honda Accord, Marysville, Ohio
4.Toyota Sienna, Princeton, Ind.
5.Honda Pilot, Lincoln, Ala.
6.Chevrolet Traverse, Lansing, Mich.
7.Toyota Tundra, San Antonio
8.Jeep Liberty, Toledo, Ohio
9.GMC Acadia, Lansing
10.Buick Enclave, Lansing

That's what happens when you're grounded to the ground.

According to that list, people lack taste.

one of the few things that chaps my ass about the new Subaru BRZ is that there is a fucking Toyota emblem on the engine.

Toyota is not a car builder anymore. They're like black & decker and whirlpool... they make appliances.
sedate, neutral earth-tone appliances made for people who hate cars.

Haven't searched, but I don't get why Subaru is moving away from their trademark boxer engine on some vehicles, or just the BRZ. Cheaper to buy an engine from another manufacturer?

In the mid 70's VW moved away from the air cooled engine in everything except the bus. Reason being all the other air cooled VW's (except the convertible Beetle) were over. One problem was it was getting too hard to smog control the little air cooled engines without sacrificing power. They didn't have too much headroom in that dept.

The I3 in the Justy didn't have the reliability of other Sub's, neither did the other parts. Also I think it was the first N/American car to have the rubber band drive. And being fair, underpowered cars usually are always getting thrashed just to keep up with traffic.

The first gen Nissan Pulsar was made by Subaru! Probably had a Nissan engine though, it was not a boxer. Car companies, why do they do things up so weird sometimes...

Back to title: North American built sounds great to me, if the car can compete and is reliable. Some success, quite a lot of fail. Early ML 320's made in Alabama, first year Sienna in Kentucky. If they improve quality in the first year or two, great, the way it should be. Wonder how the VW's in Tennessee are holding up? Didn't Louisiana go ape shit over Kia's a few years ago, forgot what town they are made in. Pardon rant

P.S. A total Made in the USA cult vehicle now commanding prices way beyond it's realistic value, is the VW Rabbit Pick Up. Especially the diesel. This funky Rabbit spinoff was made in Westmoreland PA, if I remember right. Near 60 mpg. Grab one if you can find it, pwns the Brat, which was cool too.

Nothing on that lists strikes me as very interesting or something I would ever want to own.

Posted by A. Lien Haven't searched, but I don't get why Subaru is moving away from their trademark boxer engine on some vehicles, or just the BRZ. Cheaper to buy an engine from another manufacturer?

They're not. In both the BRZ and FR-S it's a Subaru designed boxer engine with a Toyota fuel injection system. The thing that gets me about the BRZ is it's not offered with AWD. No point to spending the premium for a RWD Subaru when there are better and cheaper cars on the market. If anything, AWD is Subaru's trademark. It's not much of an exaggeration to say AWD is the only reason myself and several of my friends are still alive. The ability to lose traction on 2-3 tires and still be able to pull the car back is a life saver.

I like my car, I just wish it was a bit faster. I'm going to drive it until it dies or I graduate, then I'll buy another one. I've heard the LGT's and WRX's have a tendency to ... break.

I don't know what my next vehicle is going to be yet, something in the $20-30k range, something that can survive my asshole driving and be reliable on an hour+ commute in shitty weather. Pre-owned, certified, under 50k miles ... thinking Tacoma or STI hatchback.

The Tacoma is built in Texas at Toyota's San Antonio plant. The same plant that didn't lay off during the parts shortage and pedal recall a few years ago. I've never been laid off nor has my family that work for Toyota. Our cars might not be the greatest looking but our sales show they sell so I guess we're doing something right.

All my Cavaliers were assembled in either Lordstown OH, or Lansing MI
My Cobalts were assembled in Lordstown OH
Beretta- Linden NJ
Two Lumina's and a Monte Carlo- Oshawa ON


and all those foreign owned plants down south are there because they are right to work states and anti-union.

Yay for Jeep Liberty!

The Honda plant in Marysville, OH, is non-union. Apparently the workers voted on joining the UAW a couple times, and voted against it. From what I've heard, the pay isn't as high as a UAW plant, but the benefits are better.

Doesn't GM have a plant in China?

Posted by splumer Doesn't GM have a plant in China?

Yes, multiple plants, and Ford is building and expanding multiple plants there, too. China passed the U.S. in 2009 in total number of car sales, and we're not likely ever to catch back up. The only reason GM killed off Pontiac instead of Buick was that Chinese people love Buicks for some reason.

Posted by Samurai Two Lumina's and a Monte Carlo- Oshawa ON

Hahaha... Oshawa. Ontario's right armpit. Everyone there looks like Eminem.

Posted by arntzville The only reason GM killed off Pontiac instead of Buick was that Chinese people love Buicks for some reason.

And old people. (Old people love Buicks, not the Chinese love old people. Though they might.)

Posted by Samurai and all those foreign owned plants down south are there because they are right to work states and anti-union.

Yup. And stay pro union up there! We love the jobs

Posted by jeepdave Yup. And stay pro union up there! We love the jobs

too bad i make more than you, right?
no one wants to be fairly paid, us evil union bastards, oh what were we thinking?

Posted by Samurai too bad i make more than you, right? no one wants to be fairly paid, us evil union bastards, oh what were we thinking?

Union or not, cost of living is a lot less here.

Plus, ya know, we have jobs here.

Posted by jeepdave Union or not, cost of living is a lot less here. Plus, ya know, we have jobs here.

i make good money despite the cost of living in new york.

You know, Samarui, whats funny is that at one point, New York state had one of the cheapest cost of doing business figures in the US...then in the 80s, GE ruined it and started the great industrial pull out of the Northeast which I suppose you could say left a mess of cum in the rivers :p

Whats interesting now with Canada's moving up in the world rankings, now Canada has the highest cost of auto manufacturing in North America.

And my Cherokee is was built in Toledo, OH where Jeep has been built since 1942. Whats interesting is that plant closed in 2001 and at the time was the oldest auto plant in the world going back to the early days of the automobile. When that plant closed, then AMC's old Kenosha Assembly in Kenosha, WI was the oldest plant; this was the original AMC plant that bad Ramblers back in the day; its actually several plants combined with bridges over the roads; at the time of its closure in 2006, it was making still the legendary AMC 242! That plant was one of two to be selected to be the new site of the Pentastar engine, but however because of the plant's age and well parts had to cross the street, that engine is now made in NJ at a new plant built from the ground up.

GM just closed the Massena Powertrain Plant in Massena NY, but Tonowanda NY Assembly is still going.

and going back to the union thing... I lived for a year in Tennessee and worked at the Textron Automotive Assembly plant in Athens TN. I say worked at because I didn't work FOR them. No, they contracted through a 'staffing service' which meant shit wages, no benefits and that whole 'we can fire you because we feel like it' bullshit of a right to work state. The UAW had expressed an interest in representing us, and by us damn near 70% of the people that worked in that pit were from the Northeast, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Pennsylvania. We missed the vote by maybe 2 or 12, i don't remember it. I do clearly remember is was less than 20.

After that Textron did a 'hiring' (how magnanimous of them) and not one person that had voted UAW was hired. So, at this point you're thinking, 'why did you want a union in there, samurai?'

shit wages
no benefits
could fuck you around whenever they felt like it.
I remember the guys on the P90 (Malibu/Cutlass) line went 4 or 5 months without a day off.

it's better to have a union and not need it than to need a union and not have it. Fuck that right to work shit... if you're too dumb to know you're being fucked over, you deserve it.

Right to work means we get to work hoss. I'm currently surrounded by ex union here at ge. Why? Because while all the union plants have been closing those that wanted to keep working had to come where we have a little sense. Oh, median wage here is 24.56 an hour. Full bennies and no dues.