review recent pot you have smoked

mexican shit weed...tastes like pure shit and I was hitting it out of a metal pipe.Metal pipes suck ass.

I have 5 different kinds of nugs on hand right now.. so I'll review each.



Local purp: this has been goin' around my area for the last few months. It's a heavy sativa, fruity tasting/smelling. A really up high, followed by a hard crash. Ounce ran me $220.
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Avg. Beasters: I got a 1/4 of this for free the other day. It's got that leafy beasters smell/taste. Dominant indica. Little to no leaves on the buds. Very dense.
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Apollo 11: sick. Smells of citrus. Tastes dank. Extra, extra keify. This shit is very potent. 2 bong hits = TKO. I only got a 1/4 of this as well. $85 from the grower. I only have about 2 grams left.. I'm going to have to get more soon.
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Snowcap: Bought from the same grower. This is a very potent, peppery smelling indica/sativa that is one of my favorites of the last few months. Super potent and loaded with keif. I also bought 3 grams of hash from the grower that was made with this weed, it was rediculous. 2 Ounces: $550.00
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Killer Tomato: just picked this up about an hour ago, so no picture yet (soon). This bud is covered in red hairs. Loaded with trichomes. The buds are a yellowish color. I just smoked about a gram out of my PHX trinity, and yeah - 'tis good. 1/2 ran me 140.00.

I took a week-and-a-half break from weed (longest in a very long time); my tolerance is NIL! We bought about an eighth of above-average Mexican import. It was very compressed and bricked, fluffy nuggets, completely seeded, it cost like 20$ and another guy matched bowls with his mids of similar qualities (only his were denser). I say above-average because it was quite sticky, but black ash (i.e. fertilizers) and hardly any taste or smell.

The high was great though, it's really hard to remember what it was like because it was so far removed from normal reality. We had one bowl which was half my shwag half his stuff, then one huge (like 2.5 gram) joint (again one half mine one half his), then we were too high to smoke more, but we smoked another fat bowl which was entirely mine a couple of hours later when we were coming down. This was all between three people and . . . holy hell I was gone. Very very giggly, a happy grass.

There were so many seeds, like fifteen in the 20-bag, but I only managed to save three. I'll plant them in a vacant lot, they'll probably stay lower than the surrounding weeds (they're like six feet tall and the season's already half-way over) and it doesn't smell much so who knows maybe I can get a half ounce to an ounce of free dank (if I keep it sensi and cure it right). I still have about 3.5-3.75 bowls left so I'll give a smoke report and pictures later tonight. The cool thing about landrace sativas is that the bud you buy sucks but if you grow it right, you get some really exotic trippy tropical yummy gummy pot (yeah I'm still comin' down)

Posted by Kbasa Sorry for the noob question but... How do the buds form, i've never seen a full plant in my life. Like, how do they go from what you see on the plant to what you seen in the pics above?

They start off as white pistils; these later form the hairs on the buds. Gradually a small budlet forms around the pistils. Each of the little flowers is one budlet, and the budlet's clump together into nugs. Most of these form in a large (sometimes up to 2 ounces or more) cluster on the tallest branch, called a "cola", and some other smaller budsites can be found at most of the nodes between branches and the other, smaller tops. The colas are the most potent because they get the most sunlight. Meanwhile the male plants form small grape-like clusters full of pollen. They're taller and squirt out their nastiness all over the pretty ladies. If you get rid of them, the girls dedicate more and more energy to produce thc, to protect from what they perceive as a harsh environment (it wards off some animals as being stoned is a disadvantage, and protects from ultraviolet light, which is why himalayan/afghan charas and highland mexican like Acapulco Gold is so damn good despite being grown badly).

Some plants are short bushes, some plants form a "christmas tree" shape, and some grow almost like bamboo. You can also train them to be pretty much any shape, even tying them down to create a long creeper vine with many small budsites less susceptible to mold as opposed to one big one.

thanks, so, when the buds are removed from the "tree" all the extra hairs are removed or do they just stick to the bud and wrap around it? Like, how does it go from looking "airy" on the plant to being denser when its removed for sale/smoking?

i'll have a review of northern lights, white widow, and some NY diesel by next week, I have to remember the highs, but the artwork i did when i was high off 'em should help me remember.

Posted by Kbasa thanks, so, when the buds are removed from the "tree" all the extra hairs are removed or do they just stick to the bud and wrap around it? Like, how does it go from looking "airy" on the plant to being denser when its removed for sale/smoking?

The hairs form the red hairs so prevalent on good pot, but if the weed gets seeded too much the hairs die off (which is why shwag is just green compressed chucks with no color).

Some plants do have airy-looking buds, like this Jamaican tree:



or this:



When dried airy open buds like this generally are fairly easy to crumble:







And of course the ever-present run-of-the-mill shwag (looks pretty much exactly like what I bought)



Dense buds look like this (this being Orange Kush); here's the central cola:



And some smaller budsites at the nodes:



Dried, dense bud still looks quite dense obviously. Here's some:





None of these pics are mine, btw, when I get dank I smoke it too fast to take pictures By the way, the rest of that pot was wasted by me trying unsuccesfully to make a Leary Biscuit. Really pisses me off, but the seeds are currently between two damp paper towels (I used water I boiled this morning but is cool now, as that boils out all the chlorine and shite) and I have a spot all lined out right next to a river. It's a little too near town for a heavy-smelling skunky indica, but this bud barely smelled at all and sativas usually smell nice and fruity anyway, mixing with the other smells, and it isn't easy to pick out if you haven't smelled it before. Plus it's only three plants and I don't see them getting over 4' before the season's out. Hopefully they'll finish by the end of October but we don't really get true frosts until mid-November (the earliest frosts are mid to late October but they're mild and hardy outdoor plants won't bat an eyelash besides maybe turning a lovely color).

Posted by HillbillyHorus The hairs form the red hairs so prevalent on good pot, but if the weed gets seeded too much the hairs die off (which is why shwag is just green compressed chucks with no color).

Not quite Horus. Do a lil' more reading. The bud being covered in hairs or not has nothing to do with seeds. It has to do with the plants genetics, as well as how it is grown, cured, and packaged.

The reason schwag has little to no hairs on it is because it was mass-produced, shitty grown, pot with horrible genetics. Then, it goes on to be compressed into bricks, which removes the remaining hairs/trichs from the abuse the pot is put through.

I'm sure you've gotten good mids that wasn't compressed, and was covered in hairs.. and had seeds, right?

The reason some plants are 'light and airy' and others are tight and dense is simply due the the plants genetics as well as it's health.

cool, thanks for info.

Posted by seanblaze Not quite Horus. Do a lil' more reading. The bud being covered in hairs or not has nothing to do with seeds. It has to do with the plants genetics, as well as how it is grown, cured, and packaged. The reason schwag has little to no hairs on it is because it was mass-produced, shitty grown, pot with horrible genetics. Then, it goes on to be compressed into bricks, which removes the remaining hairs/trichs from the abuse the pot is put through. I'm sure you've gotten good mids that wasn't compressed, and was covered in hairs.. and had seeds, right? The reason some plants are 'light and airy' and others are tight and dense is simply due the the plants genetics as well as it's health.

Hmm; alright thanks for the info on the hairs. I'd read otherwise somewhere else but then I double-checked and you were right. I knew about the genetic stuff though. IMO Mexican pot is bad simply because it's grown in shitty conditions, dried in the sun, never cured, then pressed into bricks, not to mention all the time it spends on the road/on a ship.

The genetics themselves aren't so bad. My friend grew out some mexican bagseed, fed it once a week (it was rather sensitive to fertilizers), and he ended up with an 8' tall plant which gave him about two ounces of really dank pot. And there are still landrace genes out there. Acapulco Gold, Panama Red, Punta Roja, Columbian Gold, none of that stuff dissappeared, it just isn't exported much anymore. A few of the members at icmag.com live in these countries (Colombia, Mexico, Jamaica, Brazil, Paraquay, etc.) and have grown out seeds. The weed is very very dank; most of the local growers know their shit too, they just don't export. When you're growing enough to ship out all over the world, you can't take care of keeping the plants seedless or curing for a month or any of that. The only large-scale export weed that was very good was Thai, and that's because it wasn't grown by one person in a huge field. Every family in the mountains had a small patch in their backyard, and they'd compete with their neighbors to see who could churn out the best weed. They weren't living off their plants, just making a little extra cash, and all of this weed was sold to one or two big distributors who shipped it to the US. Kind of like in NoCal, you don't have one cartel running stuff, just a bunch of small basement-growers.

Some of the landrace genes have been contaminated with Afghan brought in during the '70s, and in Jamaica a lot of tourist brought dutch genetics which further fucked up the pure sativa gene-pool. A member of a Mexican cartel was arrested trying to smuggle in 10,000 AK-47 seeds from Holland. They're losing competition to mass indoor B.C.-bud, so they're trying to fight back by growing lots of cheap good genetics. Or at least that's what one guy is theorizing, who knows he might be full of shit but it sounds plausible.

To further along my point, here's some seed grown out from the shitty bricked-to-hell-and-back mexican poopy. Well it wasn't really "poopy", it was green at least, but still not very good judging from the guy's description:

Yeah.. I've grown some good pot from bag seeds a few years back (indoors). The plants, imo, were less hardy, and more susceptible to disease... yield sucked.

That being said, I still had 5 plants out of 10 planted seeds that grew to mature plants. I only harvested around 2 ounces, but the pot was pretty good; better then what most people call beasters.

Obviously, if the grower takes care of the plants, and of course, kills the males - then the end product will be pretty dank.

I've grown, and seen, much, much better pot grown from seeds ordered online, or nug seeds that get passed around locally, though.

Posted by seanblaze I've grown, and seen, much, much better pot grown from seeds ordered online, or nug seeds that get passed around locally, though.

Yeah you'll definitely get better plants from dutch seedbanks most of the time. But you never really know with bagseed, it's a gamble. Sometimes people really do find incredible plants from 'em. Besides I'm plenty happy with a free gram of above-beaster-dank, let alone a couple of ounces

The other thing with dutch genetics is that there aren't many pure sativas. If you take some Afghan or White Widow or AK-47 or most of those famous Dutch strains and grow them where I live, you get sick moldy plants. It's just too humid and hot. I know there are a handful of plants that might do alright here, but if you think about it none of these are really dutch (Skunk #1 was made in Cali, Bubblegum came from Indiana, Durban came from South Africa, Haze came from Cali though that might be too pure, etc.). The plants Holland is famous for, and the bulk of seeds that you see at drchronic or gypsy nirvana are great for indoors or out in northern latitudes, but not so much here.

I mean you can grow them but you have to take care of them more than the bagseed plants. All of my friends who grow (nothing big just under 10 plants a year) do it from plain old bagseed and get killer results. You can forget to water for three weeks and they'll still be alive, because they're adapted to harsh environments.

Edit: And of course I forgot the main reason all of the people I know use bagseed . . . they're free. I mean we're all minors, we don't like to spend 100$+ worth of what would normally be weed-money for some little seeds, all of the risk of sending cash in the mail, and considering your plot might get ripped off. When I'm older and living on my own, hell yeah I'll order some killer genetics, bagseed just gets the job done for now and it can be cool seeing all of the different types of plants you get.

yep yep, like I was saying; if you tend to the plants like you should, bag-seed or not, it'll turn out good.

I understand what you are saying about the heat effecting your plants, but at the same time, this confuses me, as I've known some people who've successfully grown dutch indicas outdoors in warmer climates (Florida, and S. Cali.) without any real issues.

Personally, I've done all my growing inside, so I don't know much about growing outdoors.

For my money though, and I know everybody doesn't have the means or ability to grow indoors, it's the only way to go. I drop around 200 bucks when orderings seeds usually. Anyway, if I'm dropping that much - I won't settle for anything other than a controled enviroment.

That, and it's nice not having to walk a mile to check your plants daily, for the whole growing season.

and I'm lazy as hell.

edit: btw, a majority of my seeds come from South America, not Holland. (and my seed-bank actually carries most of the serious sativas from the 70s that everyone thought were long gone..). I try to stay away from most big-name seed banks. Although, there is one or two dutch seed banks I will order from if I'm compeled to.

Posted by seanblaze edit: btw, a majority of my seeds come from South America, not Holland. (and my seed-bank actually carries most of the serious sativas from the 70s that everyone thought were long gone..). I try to stay away from most big-name seed banks. Although, there is one or two dutch seed banks I will order from if I'm compeled to.

Awesome, are you talking about the brazillian one? He just hired a new guy, and together they're going to gather up Acapulco Gold and some other older latin american strains that they don't have right now. Should be quite great

Alright I have a review but no pics for some weed we got today which was $150 an ounce. 'Twas middies, nothing special, awful taste, just average. We also smoked one bowl of really nice headies, sugar frosted with no seeds. I didn't really like the taste of that either, it was very harsh (though white ashes) and I like fruitier dank.

There were five people, but two of them sat out for a large portion of the sesh. Walking home I was getting really bad "auditory garbage" where it sounded like there was a constant buzzing in the air, and I could of course hear lots of music. Every step felt like I was being pushed by the wind, and it lasted about two hours (though I'm still afterglowing and feeling a bit "off").

All-in-all not bad for the price (we got an eighth for 20$ and only used a little more than half of it), and I'll be getting an ounce next Saturday.

Instead of the ounce of middies I might instead buy a quarter ounce of Purple Kush for 120$ from a very reliable source. I've heard it's a real treat, elite strain. I've never had kush before so hopefully it'll still be in town when I get my money.

$120 a 1/4 = ouch.
But, I'd still buy it over the ounce of mids.
I'm a snob about weed.

If'n it's all purple, crystally, and dank, you better post up some pics!
Official Purple Kush is excellent, I haven't had it in years.

Posted by seanblaze $120 a 1/4 = ouch. But, I'd still buy it over the ounce of mids. I'm a snob about weed. If'n it's all purple, crystally, and dank, you better post up some pics! Official Purple Kush is excellent, I haven't had it in years.

Yeah definitely pricey. Normal no-name dank ranges from 35$ - 50$/eighth. For 60$ this had better be some serious one-hitter-quitter . . .

Named strains are expensive because they're always imported from Richmond or sometimes further than that. Shwag is cheap because it's plentiful, same for mids.

By the way do you have any idea where mids come from? I have heard several theories. That it's just above-average Mexican, that it's crappy warehouse weed from Canada grown by greedy idiots who don't remove the males properly, that they intentionally let some males stand to make it weigh more, or that it's from the mid-west corn-fields.

I hope it'll be in town when I have my $168 (working for 7$ an hour four hours a day every day until Saturday painting the house), but when this dealer has dank it's gone pretty quick (plus he smokes a lot of it himself).