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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 20 on 8/6/2009 3:30 PM >
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Even with brand new batteries, the beam on my X2000 is extremely yellow and seems less bright than before. Any suggestions?




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 21 on 8/6/2009 4:11 PM >
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Even with brand new batteries, the beam on my X2000 is extremely yellow and seems less bright than before. Any suggestions?


Yes - my X2000 dissection guide. The 'extremely yellow' sounds iffy, but mine goes wonky if the little white plastic ring holding the emitter in slips, because the light won't go into the optics right. If your emitter's ok, it's likely to be an easy fix. I've only seen mine get moonglow-dim while staying pure white though.




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 22 on 8/25/2009 1:34 AM >
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Damn you metawaffle... I'm ordering one now.


How did you like it? Mine arrived in the mail today




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 23 on 8/25/2009 2:34 AM >
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How did you like it? Mine arrived in the mail today

Some snafu with Paypal, never got ordered. I forgot about it and spent all my money on a new lens. I'll buy one when I get more money lol.




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< Reply # 24 on 8/25/2009 2:46 AM >
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Some snafu with Paypal, never got ordered. I forgot about it and spent all my money on a new lens. I'll buy one when I get more money lol.


Ha!

Size: Very small. Much like an RC-N3, but slightly shorter.
Construction: As good as any Romisen. The contrasting bezel looks nice.
Beam: Very similar to the X2000.

So, the main difference between this and the X2000 is that instead of a slide zoom, it has a twist zoom, and it takes a couple of turns to move between extremes. So, it's not an instant change, like the slider is. That said, the Romisen seems more robust than the X2000, and might even be water resistant. I'd certainly rather use it in the rain than the X2000.

Oh, and it has a momentary-on/forward-clicky/tactical/whatever switch.




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 25 on 8/25/2009 5:05 AM >
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Ha!

Size: Very small. Much like an RC-N3, but slightly shorter.
Construction: As good as any Romisen. The contrasting bezel looks nice.
Beam: Very similar to the X2000.

So, the main difference between this and the X2000 is that instead of a slide zoom, it has a twist zoom, and it takes a couple of turns to move between extremes. So, it's not an instant change, like the slider is. That said, the Romisen seems more robust than the X2000, and might even be water resistant. I'd certainly rather use it in the rain than the X2000.

Oh, and it has a momentary-on/forward-clicky/tactical/whatever switch.


How would you compare the brightness to the X2000?

NMK




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 26 on 8/25/2009 6:30 AM >
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How would you compare the brightness to the X2000?

NMK


Just looking at them during the day, indoors, they seem much of a muchness. They're probably both P4 emitters, and they're using 3.7V batteries, so that seems to make sense.




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 27 on 8/25/2009 9:32 AM >
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Yet another zooming light on DX! This one looks reminiscent of a Led Lenser P14, I think. It's very cheap, probably because it uses a "generic 3W LED"

http://www.dealext...tails.dx/sku.29033





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< Reply # 28 on 8/25/2009 7:37 PM >
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Yet another zooming light on DX! This one looks reminiscent of a Led Lenser P14, I think. It's very cheap, probably because it uses a "generic 3W LED"

http://www.dealext...tails.dx/sku.29033

http://www1.dealex...es/sku_29033_1.jpg


Looks like it's got the more typical hotspot in the center too, versus the CREE units.




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< Reply # 29 on 8/25/2009 7:43 PM >
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FYI...I bought one of these several months ago too, and it works great for light-painting smaller, closer areas:

http://www.dealext...tails.dx/sku.18697


It's somewhat smaller and with a lower output versus the X2000, but works great in concert with it, since they bother operate the same mechanically, and are the same Kelvin temperature.




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< Reply # 30 on 8/25/2009 8:56 PM >
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I did wonder how those cheaper ones compared. I'd presumed they were much the same as the X2000, so it's good to know they're not quite as bright. Is runtime any different?




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< Reply # 31 on 8/26/2009 2:20 AM >
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Damn you metawaffle... I'm ordering one now.


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He has shares in DX...I know it!


Shares in DX would go great for a few months, and then you´d wonder if you should have bought more expensive ones




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Re: Tight & Bright
< Reply # 33 on 8/27/2009 1:13 AM >
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Shares in DX would go great for a few months, and then you´d wonder if you should have bought more expensive ones


LOL

Honestly, I can't comment on the runtime; I've yet to run down either unit to the point where it dies! My X2000 is the 18650 variety, and the smaller one runs on AAA x 3. I will say though that I am MOST impressed with the longevity of the X2000; awesome power for a long time!




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< Reply # 34 on 8/30/2009 11:54 AM >
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Okay, I decided to nerd it up and take some quick shots of the output of the X2000 vs the RC-C6! Note that I was so lazy that I didn't even get up from the desk here to take these

Lucky the tub of A-1 Anal Lube was on the other side of that fluoro - that could have been embarrassing.

Firstly, on flood.





Colour is about the same, the size of the beam is about the same. The Romisen has a slightly harder edge to the beam, but that's about it. Certainly there's no practical difference in actual use.





Focused tight, they look much the same, too. Those nasty rings and artifacts are not something I've ever noticed when actually using the things.

So, yeah, in terms of ouput, those two lights are practically identical. The only substantial differences are:

* The X2000 has a quick slide focus, and the RC-C6 has a very slow twist focus.
* The RC-C6 is very small, only supports 1xCR123A (or RCR), and is more solid.
* The RC-C6 has a momentary-on, forward-clicky switch, unlike the X2000.


One final irrelevant note - here's a shot of the nicely-smooth "neutral-tint" Quark 123 under the same conditions...





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Okay, I decided to nerd it up and take some quick shots of the output of the X2000 vs the RC-C6! Note that I was so lazy that I didn't even get up from the desk here to take these

Lucky the tub of A-1 Anal Lube was on the other side of that fluoro - that could have been embarrassing.

Firstly, on flood.

Colour is about the same, the size of the beam is about the same. The Romisen has a slightly harder edge to the beam, but that's about it. Certainly there's no practical difference in actual use.

Focused tight, they look much the same, too. Those nasty rings and artifacts are not something I've ever noticed when actually using the things.

So, yeah, in terms of ouput, those two lights are practically identical. The only substantial differences are:

* The X2000 has a quick slide focus, and the RC-C6 has a very slow twist focus.
* The RC-C6 is very small, only supports 1xCR123A (or RCR), and is more solid.
* The RC-C6 has a momentary-on, forward-clicky switch, unlike the X2000.


One final irrelevant note - here's a shot of the nicely-smooth "neutral-tint" Quark 123 under the same conditions...



Wow...again thanks for the comparison. What kind of bulb is in the Quark? It's visibly warmer than the the CREE units.

A-1 anal lube, eh? And I thought they just made steak sauce!




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I opted for the warm-tinted Q3 5A emitter in the Quark, rather than the cool R2. I read one comment that there's a 10% reduction in brightness in going with the warm version, though in practice, that's really not enough of a difference to be noticeable.

Warm-tinted LEDs seem to be all the rage at the moment, though I never really had a problem with the cool ones, to be honest




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I opted for the warm-tinted Q3 5A emitter in the Quark, rather than the cool R2. I read one comment that there's a 10% reduction in brightness in going with the warm version, though in practice, that's really not enough of a difference to be noticeable.

Warm-tinted LEDs seem to be all the rage at the moment, though I never really had a problem with the cool ones, to be honest


For my purposes, warm is definitely better. I'm using the X2000, but almost exclusively with a CTO gel on it to warm it up.




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For my purposes, warm is definitely better. I'm using the X2000, but almost exclusively with a CTO gel on it to warm it up.


Ah, well that makes perfect sense. I actually went with the warm tint for light painting, but haven't used it for that at all, yet. I suppose if one was feeling particularly enthusiastic, it might be possible to replace the emitter in the X2000 or the RC-C6 with a warmer one. Hmm... *goes off LED shopping*




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I suppose if one was feeling particularly enthusiastic, it might be possible to replace the emitter in the X2000 with a warmer one. Hmm... *goes off LED shopping*


That's what I'm waiting on shipping for. Hurry up postman!




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