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dirt
Location: Oakland, CA Gender: Male Total Likes: 0 likes
Je suis très aimable et très caustique.
| | | | | Re: Hypothetical re-trusting a cheater question < Reply # 21 on 8/12/2009 8:45 PM >
| | | Posted by Esoterik This is BS. No excuse for cheating, kick their ass to the curb. Cheating is not a flaw to accept. There is a lot to be said for keeping respect for yourself high and not being a chump.
| OMG Fucking moral hysterics. See, cheating is a breach of agreement. The problem with typical monogamous relationships is that these agreements were made without direct consent, but rather they are based off assumptions. People who cheat have not been given the chance to be completely honest. Generally what happens in a typical relationship is that two people get together, there is that charge where both parties feel like they need no one else. Often times things are said in the moment which are only a part of their whole feelings. This is where assumptions are made. As time goes on, those feelings subside, and the rest of this persons nature will be seen. The "cheater" will feel trapped and will keep things secret, until they cheat. But will lie, in the fear that truth will fuck up a good thing. And it is a sad state that the people who get cheated on either don't do anything about(as their love and understanding is strong) or they feel the are forced(hence why I feel the quote above to be highly immature) to break up with the one they love without really working on what needs to be worked on. Here is when things get really fucked up(and I will give my personal opinions on the subject). In most relationships, love is given this larger than life meaning, like somehow there is only one person out there for you. This is completely wrong. If this was true, then people would have no need for friends. A committed relationship is one thing: A decision. The love was always there, and no matter what pains, the love will continue to be there. I don't care if a person is poly or mono, the same rules apply: It is a choice to be faithful. The problem is that it is not realized that people also have to be faithful to themselves. If not, bitterness, fighting, and a great rent will be made and great pains will be suffered. Never self sacrifice to make someone happy. You won't. This doesn't mean do not compromise. In my own semi poly relationship, there is a "rule" of "nothing below the waist" and of keeping in communication. These are spoken agreements. Something I can hold myself to. It is up to every relationship you have to consciously make agreements, compromise when need be, and revisit. Always revisit. Because people change. The plan is to change and grow with them.
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| AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC Gender: Male Total Likes: 49 likes
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | | Re: Hypothetical re-trusting a cheater question < Reply # 24 on 8/12/2009 9:33 PM >
| | | Posted by dirt The problem with typical monogamous relationships is that these agreements were made without direct consent, but rather they are based off assumptions. Generally what happens in a typical relationship is that two people get together, there is that charge where both parties feel like they need no one else. Often times things are said in the moment which are only a part of their whole feelings. This is where assumptions are made. As time goes on, those feelings subside, and the rest of this persons nature will be seen. They will feel trapped and will keep things secret, but will lie, in the fear that truth will fuck up a good thing.
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For what? Sounding like a know it all wanker, who has way to much time on his hands? o.O
| I guess it's a compliment, even if we who give it don't know enough to appraise your words ;). I think that relationships fail when people come in with assumptions and then don't talk about them, or about the problems that come up because of them. The "yay snuggles" charge or whatever runs out with nothing to replace it. The End. God knows it's what I did.
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| Emma Peel
Location: Ahowah Gender: Female Total Likes: 4 likes
Ghosting you like you've never been ghosted before.
| | | Re: Hypothetical re-trusting a cheater question < Reply # 26 on 8/12/2009 11:28 PM >
| | | Posted by metawaffle Wait, this was about Action? I thought it was all hypothetical! I take back anything I said, and replace it with "tell him to shape up, or it's bacon sandwiches for breakfast"
| He says to tell you that it's only hypothetically about him. I think we're doing okay. That all was very great; thanks especially to dirt, AnAppleSnail, meta, and Mandias... Shit. I told him I wouldn't even mind if he turned out like Mandias, as long as I got a little bit of a break from it so I could learn to trust him again. Forgiving him helped immensely... I just have to sit back and do some self-care and evaluate myself in the situation, I think. I dunno. Lately I've had this feeling of "it'll be okay"... mostly because he managed to declare his commitment and reassured me we would work it out. It felt good to be validated like that. I know this was a hard thing for him to see but I appreciate you guys not demonizing him and making him feel bad... I realize that much of what he did/tried to do/said came from not taking the relationship seriously for the first few months because it was long distance. I think he wanted you guys to know that. So, I understand where he was coming from. I know he wouldn't do anything like that, now. I mean.... Because I haven't had TIME to build and strengthen trust and re-build that relationship foundation, I still have that little voice in the back of my head... but she can be talked down with some logical stuff, too. I don't think this will come to a compromise situation, which is basically a win-lose for both people. I think this will come to a win-win situation, as long as we are communicating openly. Thanks so much to everyone who said anything. It really put some things into perspective and was very thought-provoking. I'm gonna go ahead and lock this now.... If anyone else has anything to contribute, feel free to PM me. thank you all so much, again. <3 I really appreciate it. I love him so much, and I know that he loves me. I really hope that we can find a way to meet each other's needs while feeling good that our needs are being met, as well.
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