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< on 2/28/2010 9:25 PM >
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Your experiences?

Going to be having some for the first time in a couple weeks.




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Re: LSD
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it is an amazing and powerful experience that should be treated with a ton of respect. if you set yourself up for success you will have an amazing and possibly life changing time!

Some thoughts:

1. Crystals of different kinds will have varying kinds of effects. some crystal produces harder edges on the visuals while some crystal produces a drippier and softer edged trip. The cleaner the crystal the lighter the "body load". The dirtier the crystal the more you'll notice effects such as gas, muscle tension or the urge to grind your teeth. If you have the luxury, start with a small dose and ramp up your dosage to a comfortable level over the course of several experiences. If you don't have the luxury of continued access then DO NOT take more than what equals 2 doses on your first adventure.

2. A HUGE part of setting yourself up for success is your environment. Make sure you pick some place safe and comfortable. Make sure you set aside enough time for the experience and that you don't have work or something that will be on your mind for the duration of the trip. Pick some place you're familiar with. Get comfortable. Have some comforting music at the ready. *Music has a HUGE influence on your experience.*

3. You'll notice taste and hearing are more acute too. I'd suggest having a couple different kinds of drinks around to try with your newly honed senses. As I mentioned before, music has a huge influence on your experience. Have a bunch of different things to listen to especially music you really really love. Hearing it on doses for your first time is going to blow your mind if you're really into music.

4. I always recommend doing this in the presence of at least one other level headed person you trust. Never do this alone. You never know where a profound trip might lead you.

5. If you have a family history of Schizophrenia or susceptibility to seizures DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT INDULGE. This is NOT the drug for you. LSD lowers a person's seizure threshold temporarily and is prone to causing schizophrenic breaks in those individuals who are already likely to experience schizophrenic symptoms.

6. Bottom line: this drug is AMAZINGLY powerful. We're talking about something that produced profound psychedelic effects from as little as 100 micrograms. If you treat it with the proper respect you'll have an awesome time.


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He nailed it
First time I took my
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botanical gardens in my city then went exploring, In a nutshell, one of the best trips I've ever had. Intense
visuals and an extreme body high from just two doses


Take two, be careful




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Me, circa 1987, dropped a couple of blotters, listened to Dazed and Confused (SRTS) for six hours straight.

The band leaped off a poster set up near the turn table, and played in my living room.




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lots of wonderful info...


Thank you! I do not have a history of seizers or schizophrenia. I will be with my boyfriend and one of our friends while doing this. Probably at our friends house. We won't be doing it for a few weeks, but I intend to wait for a time where we won't be working the next day. I want to have a bunch of art supplies around me and see what I can whip up. Between the three of us, we also have a huuuge collection of all sorts of music. Any bands in particular that you recommend?




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< Reply # 5 on 3/2/2010 7:53 PM >
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If you plan to trip from the safety of home,

I recommend In a gadda da vida by Iron Butterfly, Deep Purple, Stone Temple Pilots, and as much Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, and The Beatles you can find.

Watching The Beatles Yellow Submarine is a must too. Just wait till you see the box. Intense.

I tried it new years day this year with a few friends. Took two hits at 1030 at night. 11 we could start to feel it creep up on us, until 1130 it kicked in hard. Colors were more bold, and sparkly stuff more sparkly. It's good to have food to snack on, but not food that takes any kind of preparation. Making stove top wacky mac seemed to be the most difficult thing I ever did. I recommend trail mix or Cheezit crackers. I also recommend fruit juice over soda.

Crayons or colored pencils might not be a bad Idea, and can bring some interesting drawings.

Throughout the whole trip you will likely get stiffness in your neck and mild aching where the back of your head meets your neck. It'll come and go. You can try tylenol but it didn't help us any.

Forrest Gump is a fun movie to watch while tripping, but skip the part where they get ambushed in vietnam. It's kinda terrifying and angry.

BTW we could still feel it at noon the next day, although the trip itself was over around 9. Be prepared. Acid is an all day thing.




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It changed my life for a while and allowed me to reevaluate the way I treated life.

It is a very powerful drug and that being said I would rather take a little bit too much than not enough. Not enough is terrible, its like your about to come up and then you don't, for 8 hours. Its a terrible purgatory.

I usually get a very flowing kind of trip, lots of melting and morphing (walls moving/flowing), no real tracers though. My taste and hearing senses definitely increase, especially my hearing. I find acid to be a much speedier trip than mushrooms and I always need to be fidgeting with something or our and about.

You should look into riding your bike for a while, its great fun!




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I think I'm in need of some tabs soon, need a perspective soon.




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< Reply # 8 on 3/21/2010 11:50 PM >
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I am confused. Can you please explain what you mean by this? Crystals...?

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1. Crystals of different kinds will have varying kinds of effects. some crystal produces harder edges on the visuals while some crystal produces a drippier and softer edged trip. The cleaner the crystal the lighter the "body load". The dirtier the crystal the more you'll notice effects such as gas, muscle tension or the urge to grind your teeth. If you have the luxury, start with a small dose and ramp up your dosage to a comfortable level over the course of several experiences. If you don't have the luxury of continued access then DO NOT take more than what equals 2 doses on your first adventure.


I absolutely agree with everything else you said, however.




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< Reply # 9 on 6/19/2010 5:33 PM >
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LSD in it's purest form, before it is put in liquid or laid on sheets, is a crystal. There are varying types of crystal. Each crystal varies in purity. Each crystal produces slightly different visuals if you get ahold of enough to really investigate them. Here's a quick rundown on the different types of crystal and their estimated purity levels courtesy of ChinaCat72 posted in 2002 at TheShroomery.org who used to lay sheets for the family.

"I will discuss LSD crystal and what happens with it. This info is from my experiences a long time ago.I can safely offer it because I have retired from this line of work and stay far away from it.

First I will briefly discuss the people or family as there called so you can get an appreciation for what they do and have done. The family is motivated to spread LSD because we believe that LSD is a key givin to us from above. LSD was givin to man from god to help him see the error of his ways. Why do you think it was discovered during the most horrible time in history. It is the antidote for the atomic bomb. It`s doesn`t matter if you beleive this or not ,because what i`m trying to express is how deeply important the family feels about the sacred value of LSD. Those who are at the upper level`s of the family will gladly sacrifice there lifes and freedom to do this work.

OK now down to the crystal. I have little knowlege about LSD manufacture so i`m going to talk about the final product the crystal. On tour crystal came in brown glass bottles with 1-10 grams in them. The bottles were sealed and contained CO2 and crystal. You can`t just buy crystal from family. First you have to be taught how to lay it ,which i`ll cover in a little bit. Also you have to do a thumbprint(eat it) there are no exeptions to this rule.The reason is to make sure your Karma is clean enough to handle this sacred work.

TYPES OF CRYSTAL

Needlepoint -very pure(95%) white powerdery crystal,was available in small amount`s. The best of the best

White Fluff -Very pure(95%) white light flakes of crystal. Still around and the most sought after. very pure

Silver -Good and clean(85-90%)-light greyish crystal. Was an unbelievable amount of this around in the late eighty`s and early nineties. Very good stuff. My first thumbprint was this kind. If you ate acid in the 80-90`s you probably sampled some silver.

Amber -Decent(70%?) This crystal varied from a light amber color to an almost dark brown color.Was always available.One batch called quadricept amber was the color of light honey and was very good.Lot`s a people worked with this crystal but I always would use silver instead since it was better and the same price.

Lavender -(60-70%?) light purple to almost black colored crystal. Like amber it varied batch to batch.

TJ (tornado juice) - purity unknown. I seen this shit in about four different colors and it always scared me. No experiance with it.

Champagne -(50-60%) black crystal, nasty stuff IMHO. I worked with it once and swore to never touch it again.

OK so you got some crystal and need to get it on blotter. It`s a pretty amazing feeling holding a jar in your hands that has 10 grams of crystal in it. That`s 100,000 doses in the palm of your hand. For dealing with laying we`ll say we got 1 gram. Acid is always layed 1 gram=10 tenpacks. A tenpack is tensheets. 1gram=10,000doses. If your laying needlpoint your doses will be 95mcg, because your crystal is 95% pure. If your laying amber your shit will be 70mcg, because it`s 70% pure. got it

Now you get a glass pyrex pan to dip your tenpacks in. Your crystal is dissovled into 110ml. of everclear per gram.The purer crystals dissolve instantly with a little stirring. The not so pure take a little shaking. Champange is damn near impossible to get to dissolve evenly.

Paper-for white blotter standard watercolor paper#14 or equivalent is used. It`s critical you get the right paper. If you don`t it won`t absorb right and you`ll fuck it all up.Print`s are made up ahead of time and perferated.

OK so you got your crystal dissolved and your paper cut and ready. There are 2 schools when it comes to putting it on the paper. First dump the solution in the pan and dip each tenpack into it then lift it up and let any excess solution run off into the pan. Second method is to put the tenpack into the pan and squirt the solution on it with a baby syringe(the ones they give little kids medicine with). I Have done both and prefer dipping them just because its quicker .Then the tenpacks are layed out to dry which doesn`t take long since alcohol evaporates quickly. If you did it right there will be very little residue left in the bottom of the pan.This redidue is extremely potent and is either soaked up with a piece of paper(called mop up) or made into potent liquid(called wash). Whatever you choose this is saved for your personal use. While your doing all this you get very,very high. As soon as you open the jar of crystal it intoxicates the air. Most people were rubber gloves when doing this some don`t. Just don`t have any plans afterwards.

There might be slightly different methods used when laying, but this is how the dead family does it. After the tenpacks are dryed there distibuted and eaten up. Since the end of the Grateful Dead the massive distribution network that used to get rid of so much acid has been broken up badly. Never fear Acid is still out there"


On top of these kinds of crystal there is also, Swiss, Czech, Czech25 and a couple more that are slipping my mind. Nowadays, since the Fluff family got broken up, Fluff is a unicorn crystal that you rarely every REALLY see.



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Sooo it happened. (TL;DR: It was crazy. I had a pretty fulfilling experience, but don't want to do it again. At least for a long time and only under certain circumstances.)

This may not be entirely coherent because I'm pretty burnt. Sorry this is so long, but I want to remember as much as possible. I tried to keep myself mentally prepared before hand. Relaxed, happy, etc. Had one sugar cube. About 20 minutes later it hit. My first reactions were seeing colors change slightly and I found things to be abnormally funny for a short while. After about an hour we (4 others including my bf) wandered up to the roof and hung out up there for the majority of the trip. Watching the sun set then staring at the night sky from a rooftop in Brooklyn while tripping is amaaaazing.

The majority of the time I felt like I was having an intensely profound spiritual experience. It was pretty mind blowing. The only downfall was that it gave me a horrible headache the entire time. Over a day later I still feel it though not as intense.

The trip for me lasted a good 12 hours. After the first 3 I felt like I had come down a lot and could hold a mundane conversation and had a pretty firm grasp of what was going on. This feeling lasted for about a half hour. One of the people we tripped with brought out his bong and we smoked up. The weed was apparently incredible. I don't really know because about 10 minutes after I smoked I went WAY back up and stayed there for a good 6 hours or more. At this point the whole spiritual feeling came back and my mind flew in thousands of directions at once.

A couple things I didn't really like. Since I was convinced I was having some profound spiritual breakthrough, I couldn't understand why some of the other people wanted to cling to their phones and computers. I felt like they were wasting the opportunity to... experience... the universe? Something like that. It didn't really sit well with me, but while I was on the roof I was able to space out and enjoy my experience on my own. When we went back downstairs to order food is when the trip went downhill. This is when some went on their laptops.

The internet on acid is a horrible idea. At least for me haha. One of the first things I watched was a youtube video of the universe. http://www.youtube...atch?v=17jymDn0W6U This was pretty crazy. It's something I normally would love, but I found it way too intense. After that I decided I didn't want to look at any kind of screen anymore. I wanted to just experience what was going on in my head and not be distracted by electronics. I found it hard at times. After I finally managed to keep myself from the computers they put on the tv. Morgan Freeman on acid is CRAZY. As if looking at the universe wasn't enough, they put on Through the Wormhole and we watched the episode on dark energy. I'm a physics major and this is actually my favorite subfield of astronomy, but while tripping I found it waaay too much to handle. It didn't make me freak out, just really uncomfortable.

Oh! Throughout the trip I drew. A lot. I had seen the whole government study where they gave an artist LSD and told him to draw the same guy throughout the trip and I pretty much wanted to do the same thing. I ended up drawing and scribbling on over 20 pages. At first I drew my boyfriend, but then I brought my sketchbook on the roof and went crazy. The rest of the stuff I drew looks like a bunch of astronomical patterns and some buddhas. If you guys want to see I'll post some of it. I also took a few pictures.

So overall it was pretty mindblowing. I enjoyed it immensely for the most part, but being inside and having to watch TV really made me uncomfortable. Toward the very end someone said something that put a horrible image in my head, but when I said to stop talking about it they didn't. That on top of feeling so uncomfortable kinda put me over the edge and I just wanted it to be over and go home. I didn't have a nervous breakdown, but for the last two hours I sat in a near catatonic state. I didn't say anything and didn't want to interact with anyone. After a half hour of this my bf was sober enough to get us home (it was now around 2am) but it still took me a while to snap out of that state. I did manage to get out of it and went to sleep in a good mood.

So yes, insanely powerful drug. For the most part I really enjoyed it and even though it didn't end well, I still think it was all worth it. I wouldn't want to do it again though.




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Yea, I just did it again this summer for the first time in two years after having a pretty rough trip. Overall the trip was good but I had a stomachache the entire time...I was pretty burnt out by the end of it.

Also weed will definitely bring the trip back on super strong...One time I took around 7-10 hits and felt like I was coming down a lot so I smoked and ended up being shot off into heaven for another 3-4 hours. Also a unique thing about acid is that it comes on in waves, sometimes you'll feel like you are really coming down but then it takes off again and again all day.

The most important part about having any type of trip is mindset and setting, being locked up inside all day does not sound like too much fun tripping acid.




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My friends and I smoked nearly the entire night we tripped. We may not next time lol




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My friends and I smoked nearly the entire night we tripped. We may not next time lol


You give bad acid advice. What works for you doesn't work for everyone else. The 60's are not the end all be all of Psychedelic experience.


In terms of music, always play what speaks to you in the moment. You can control your own trip that way. I recommend staying away from dark and moody, although overly happy can be draining.




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My most recent experience was a powerful one. I took some weak acid with my girlfriend of 5 years. We chose now because she and I have been doing processing work around our relationship. Particularly around trust because we are opening our relationship.

We set up our hotel room as comfortable as we could then dropped a hit each, then I chased mine down with orange juice. I put my girlfriend in charge of the music so I have no idea what was playing, the point was it was background and I barely noticed it. Took about an hour to really come on. I was thinking about a lot so I decided to jump in the hot tub in our hotel room. While sitting there I got the sensation of the universe trying to pass through me. It wouldn't pass because my ego was blocking it. So I rocked back and forth obsessing over the idea of surpassing ego. I couldn't. and I couldn't take the pressure of the universe anymore so got into bed and writhed around. My GF tried to comfort me but with no luck. So I got up and stared myself in the mirror until the realization that I'm absurd crossed my mind. I started to laugh. Then I came out of the bathroom to find my GF on the bed holding her stomach. I surpassed my ego at that moment and downloaded a new set of abilities. So I sat there and became a healer. I helped my GF purge demons. Particularly around body issues. Then the light started to break. Morning had arrived. And while talking, a tree outside in my mind had become an armored elephant with a Seraph on it's back. I looked at myself and Knew that while I was able to bypass myself, The ego has a lot of damage it needs to be worked on. Then I could feel under my skin. It was like someone rubbed greasy, maggoty, roadkill all over my insides. I got shown what is, and I was shown what is possible.

All together a very informative trip.



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You give bad acid advice. What works for you doesn't work for everyone else. The 60's are not the end all be all of Psychedelic experience.



That music just happened to be in the moment. I was just saying it doesn't suck to listen to.

And just because I did stereotypical acid things doesn't mean I think everyone should pretend it's 1971. I think everyone ought watch yellow submarine at least once as it's trippy as shit.s




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My most recent experience was a powerful one. I took some weak acid with my girlfriend of 5 years. We chose now because she and I have been doing processing work around our relationship. Particularly around trust because we are opening our relationship.

We set up our hotel room as comfortable as we could then dropped a hit each, then I chased mine down with orange juice. I put my girlfriend in charge of the music so I have no idea what was playing, the point was it was background and I barely noticed it. Took about an hour to really come on. I was thinking about a lot so I decided to jump in the hot tub in our hotel room. While sitting there I got the sensation of the universe trying to pass through me. It wouldn't pass because my ego was blocking it. So I rocked back and forth obsessing over the idea of surpassing ego. I couldn't. and I couldn't take the pressure of the universe anymore so got into bed and writhed around. My GF tried to comfort me but with no luck. So I got up and stared myself in the mirror until the realization that I'm absurd crossed my mind. I started to laugh. Then I came out of the bathroom to find my GF on the bed holding her stomach. I surpassed my ego at that moment and downloaded a new set of abilities. So I sat there and became a healer. I helped my GF purge demons. Particularly around body issues. Then the light started to break. Morning had arrived. And while talking, a tree outside in my mind had become an armored elephant with a Seraph on it's back. I looked at myself and Knew that while I was able to bypass myself, The ego has a lot of damage it needs to be worked on. Then I could feel under my skin. It was like someone rubbed greasy, maggoty, roadkill all over my insides. I got shown what is, and I was shown what is possible.

All together a very informative trip.


I just ate a weed cookie a little bit ago...













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That music just happened to be in the moment. I was just saying it doesn't suck to listen to.

And just because I did stereotypical acid things doesn't mean I think everyone should pretend it's 1971. I think everyone ought watch yellow submarine at least once as it's trippy as shit.s


I wouldn't call the yellow submarine trippy. More like visually entertaining. You wanna see trippy?

http://www.youtube...atch?v=ceHH3QGXvNw


The reason I'm so harsh, is that LSD is a very powerful and healing drug. I use it when I can no longer see the depths. When I hit a brick wall and need melt past it. What you were describing is using it as a party drug. That is what ended up happening with the hippies. It no longer was about self exploration, just visual masturbation.




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That sounds like quite the trip Oryx!




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The reason I'm so harsh, is that LSD is a very powerful and healing drug. I use it when I can no longer see the depths. When I hit a brick wall and need melt past it. What you were describing is using it as a party drug. That is what ended up happening with the hippies. It no longer was about self exploration, just visual masturbation.


That is quite true. Acid was an eye opening experience. Although it's mildly pretentious to criticize me for stepping back from the gravity of self realization and enjoying a little visual masturbation (along with some wacky mac) for 15% of my trip, you do raise some very good points that I absolutely agree with.

I've learned quite a bit since my acid trip. I came to the conclusion that it's wrong to harbor anger and holding on to it only gives power to your inner demons and whatnot and the less energy you give to misfortune the the happier you will be overall. I've found it quite hard to stay angry since I no longer see a point to it.

It's an eye opening drug indeed, and to suggest I am only using it as a "party drug" is unfair. All I did was suggest a movie (that has some interesting concepts to think about along with undertones of self expression and personal freedom), some music, and the use of crayons.




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