Hey everyone that into the car hobby. I think the gas price thing is just GREED........If someone over in the middleast farts gas prices go up.even when oil is not in short supply...Its just more crap to make things hard on everyone..No one can hardly enjoy the car hobby anymore......

scrap prices are killing the car hobby

Really? Shut the fuck up. If you love it, youll still be able to afford to drive it even at $5-10/gallon. They pay about $10/gal in the UK.

Move to Venezuela or Egypt where it's still under $1/gallon. But try finding the nice cars I guess the answer is to buy a sick muscle car and move to Venezuela.

Posted by Louie Really? Shut the fuck up. If you love it, youll still be able to afford to drive it even at $5-10/gallon. They pay about $10/gal in the UK. Move to Venezuela or Egypt where it's still under $1/gallon. But try finding the nice cars I guess the answer is to buy a sick muscle car and move to Venezuela.

Or go to ANYWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST where its like 40 cents a gallon and every drives land yachts :p

i dont put scrap metal into my car so that doesn't effect me
and the price of gas doesn't change my lifestyle at all its just money i rather use for other shit. If I was worried about that Id be driving a yaris or a TDI

Posted by Nismo i dont put scrap metal into my car so that doesn't effect me and the price of gas doesn't change my lifestyle at all its just money i rather use for other shit. If I was worried about that Id be driving a yaris or a TDI

Your car is made of scrap metal. No, really.

Posted by Nismo i dont put scrap metal into my car so that doesn't effect me and the price of gas doesn't change my lifestyle at all its just money i rather use for other shit. If I was worried about that Id be driving a yaris or a TDI

you're an idiot... what he's talking about is that some classic (and not so classic, but near and dear cars) have been crushed merely for scrap value. the owners were boobs and instead of selling them, scrapped them.

actually, gas prices have changed my lifestyle... i'm moving away from cars and getting more into dirtbikes and atv's. They're cheaper to run and actually more fun.

GAs prices have stopped me from 4 wheeling and driving my truck and sports cars. I drive a 4 cylinder wagon now, while everything sits in the driveway. I cant even find a buyer to sell the gas hogs to.

i know how you all feel, imagine how i feel, working on a native reserve, they all get thier taxes refunded on gas. so every man and his brother is driving a massive old american beast and im driving in in my little cavalier

I think traffic enforcement and stiffer penalties is killing the hobby. Also the average age of drivers is increasing.

Most middle aged and older follow the "old people are slow" stereotype.

It's mostly about nostalgia for the older crowd now. Most teenagers and 20 somethings don't, or can't, get sports cars that rival their competition (the police).

Outrunning them was easy in the 70's/80's and less severe.

You don't start out driving fast, you never will.

And unless you're on a sport bike, every time you get behind the wheel, it's a dice roll.

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Posted by TheVicariousVadder I think traffic enforcement and stiffer penalties is killing the hobby. Also the average age of drivers is increasing. Most middle aged and older follow the "old people are slow" stereotype. It's mostly about nostalgia for the older crowd now. Most teenagers and 20 somethings don't, or can't, get sports cars that rival their competition (the police). Outrunning them was easy in the 70's/80's and less severe. You don't start out driving fast, you never will. And unless you're on a sport bike, every time you get behind the wheel, it's a dice roll. holy shit scatterbrain edits

what i see up here is kids buying CVPI's cheap and killing themselves. they sell at auction here 4 years old for about 3 to 4 grand

Posted by nostra-YOUPPI! what i see up here is kids buying CVPI's cheap and killing themselves. they sell at auction here 4 years old for about 3 to 4 grand

Insurance must be different, if you under 25 and it's got more than 4 cylinders or a turbo ... you're fucked.

Posted by TheVicariousVadder I think traffic enforcement and stiffer penalties is killing the hobby. Also the average age of drivers is increasing.

Driving responsibly is killing the the car hobby?

Posted by musket boy scrap prices are killing the car hobby

fucking truth.

Also, if you're really into it, you're going to find a way to stay in it. I justify paying more for gas since I drive vehicles that are bad on gas...people pay for the things they're into.

Posted by TheVicariousVadder Insurance must be different, if you under 25 and it's got more than 4 cylinders or a turbo ... you're fucked.

My first insurance on a 1995 Dodge Caravan with the MMC 3.0 V6 was 635.00 for six months.

Posted by Agent Skelly My first insurance on a 1995 Dodge Caravan with the MMC 3.0 V6 was 635.00 for six months.

my first insurance on a 2005 Dodge Ram with the 5.7 Hemi V8 was $435 for one month.

i was lucky... my insurance has always been affordable.
last year, though, State Farm kept upping my rates even though I had been with them for almost 10 years. I had four claims with them over the years, two were windshield replacements, one was a deer strike and the last one was when my Cobalt had been vandalized.

Posted by nostra-YOUPPI! what i see up here is kids buying CVPI's cheap and killing themselves. they sell at auction here 4 years old for about 3 to 4 grand

here in quebec we have government liability insurance, so your material insurance is fairly cheap

Posted by Samurai i was lucky... my insurance has always been affordable. last year, though, State Farm kept upping my rates even though I had been with them for almost 10 years. I had four claims with them over the years, two were windshield replacements, one was a deer strike and the last one was when my Cobalt had been vandalized.

$1800/year for full coverage on 4 cars. Shit's cheap when you get married and pass 25!

i pay 1800 a year one way! yay for being young and having a nice car. 2 way is 3500 a year which I refuse to pay