Posted by WarBird69 That's not cocaine man. That's frozen water that fell from the sky. Two different types of snow!

Frozen water!!!! From the sky?........What'd you put in that eggnog?

Posted by cr400 Frozen water!!!! From the sky?........What'd you put in that eggnog?

Snow.

Alright, alright..........I have a couple snow stories......

1982 I got a brand new Toyota 4x4 truck, still had the skinny little snow rated tires on it. We had family in the mountains, 6'700' elevation.

On the way home after it had been snowing for 2 days, were heading home, I got snow tires.........I don't need no stinking chains.

The road is normally a 50 60mph section. We were doin' 40, the car 100' in front of decides at the last minute to make a u turn from my lane, he has chains. And seems to be able to stop much quicker than I.

Hit brakes = speed up, I let off to regain steering, as I pass that fucker I'm sideways at 40 heading downhill and picking up speed.

I finally get control, start feathering brakes, get us slowed and back down to about 30mph.

My asshole had ripped the upholstery......I'd spent a lot of time airborne and sideways in race buggies, trucks, and motorbikes over the years.

It added a new sense of importance this time, as my 7mo pregnant wife was sittin' in the cab with me.........God was watchin' out for the three of us.

Next.

thats an awesome story.
and SAM, that car was begging to be put killed. its better off now

Posted by cr400 You Eastcoast and Canadian folks just don't know how to drive in the snow!!!! Now over here on the west coast, we could give y'all a lesson or two;)

Speak for yourself, Mr. I Love LA.

/me points to the Oregon Cascades which has been making winter fun for any wheeled vehicles since the Oregon Trail.

Posted by Agent Skelly Speak for yourself, Mr. I Love LA. /me points to the Oregon Cascades which has been making winter fun for any wheeled vehicles since the Oregon Trail.

Snow might be fun to play in for a little bit, But if you want to get some place, no snow is better. And 2 wheels are better than 4 or even 6.

I can get further, faster, with less wear and tear on my two wheelers, than I can in my 4 wheelers..

Take your Cascades in the snow and have fun. I'll stick with my desert and forest in the spring and summer.

And I do love L.A.

Merry Christmas, tubby.

Posted by team haymaker thats an awesome story. and SAM, that car was begging to be put killed. its better off now

as i said, you would have to meet the guy...

Last year I was going to school one day. The roads hadn't been plowed yet but most of the lane had been cleared by traveling cars. It was the worst winter, six foot snow banks on either side of the road from previous storms. The breakdown lane had about 1-2" of slushy shit on it. There's a big F150 in front of me doing about 70mph, I'm behind him going about 60, my usual speed, it's a posted 45 zone.

It's one big long straight shot between two slight corners. Well we come around the slight corner onto the straight shot and observe two plows coming around the other corner on the other side, about 1/2 mile down the road.

Well the first plow starts driving dead center down the double yellow line, the plow behind him was about two-three truck lengths behind him plowing the breakdown/right half of the lane on the other side.

Guy in front of me has to swerve over into the deeper snow to avoid the dickhead plow driver who's traveling DEAD CENTER DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. Well he's in a truck with big tires, so he has no problem keeping his truck moving. I have 16" all-seasons on my car, I follow his lead pushing my car into the deeper slush to avoid being hit by the plow. I feel the traction slip completely from the right side of the car. I completely let off the gas, I know I can't brake to slow down, and that my momentum is allowing me to basically skid straight. If I hit the brakes the car will spin and hit the snow bank and 360' right into the plow, bad idea.

We swerved over early and there's a few seconds for me to assess what to do. I need traction back before we hit the curve or I'm done. I can't get traction back in the snow. There's a 30'-40' gap between the two plows and there's freshly cleared traction between them. There's not going to be time to swerve multiple times into control, I've got to pull this off in less than two fishtails, more than that I'm hitting something. ... one shot to pull this off but I am in my element, this is the kind of risk and physical challenge my body and mind are designed for. When you take away everything else, this is what is left.

I wait 1", 2", 3" the plow is on my right, 4", 5" ... as soon as I pass the first plow I hit the brakes HARD and cut the wheel counterclockwise HARDER and then swerve the car fully across the lane in front of the second oncoming plow, who DOESN'T EVEN BRAKE! Or slow down! Other plow still barreling towards me, I swerve as far over as there is traction and then I turn the wheel just as HARD in the opposite direction and then I FLOOR* the accelerator, WHOMP-WHOMPPPP, as I swerve back into my lane, bring the wheel straight brake, let off, brake, and then re-accelerate HARD once more ... and I pull the car back into control.

I get to school and there's another kid in my class telling me he ran into a girl at the gas station whose bumper was torn off by a plow traveling down the middle of the road and the plow didn't stop, I recant my story and we agree it was probably the same asshole. Now if they had plowed the other side first and then came back around down the middle it might not have been an issue. He's lucky it was me, in my car; anyone else, with any other vehicle, probably wouldn't have pulled that off.


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Posted by Agent Skelly Speak for yourself, Mr. I Love LA. /me points to the Oregon Cascades which has been making winter fun for any wheeled vehicles since the Oregon Trail.

Ahem..... Mountains in the pacific northwest have nothing on the Rockies....

Posted by cavemonkey Ahem..... Mountains in the pacific northwest have nothing on the Rockies....

I flew into Denver to purchase a 1964 Ford 4x4 a few years ago. Sitting in the guys driveway as I'm leaving, I look at this huge wall with snow on top blocking my path (The Rockies.) I'd never seen anything so fucking big.

The owner told me the truck was good to take that route, but I chose the flatter warmer route. I'd never met this truck before, and only had the tools the TSA would allow me to carry with me.

The trip was a blast, so glad I took the flat warm route.

That was a close call, as the truck had no heater.

any one who thinks snow/ice/snow and ice tires are useless deserves a punch in the face

I've used paddle tires often in the sand. I wonder how they'd do in deep snow?
Like 2 or 3 foot deep?

Posted by Nismo any one who thinks snow/ice/snow and ice tires are useless deserves a punch in the face

BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A tires is all I need...the BAJA CHAMPION!

Posted by Nismo any one who thinks snow/ice/snow and ice tires are useless deserves a punch in the face

A third testicle may be useful but you don't have to have it to fuck.

Posted by Agent Skelly BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A tires is all I need...the BAJA CHAMPION!

Ill second this one. It is all I ever ran on my 98 Tacoma. Ran that truck offroad in all conditions all over the west and never had a traction issue. Hell i was able to get it up the hardest trail in the area on bald T/As. They are great tires!

Posted by Nismo any one who thinks snow/ice/snow and ice tires are useless deserves a punch in the face

maybe if you knew how to drive you wouldn't be such an asshole about snow/ice... Twenty years+ of driving and only ONE car I owned had snowtires. And the only reason for that was that they were on the car when I bought it.

Posted by cr400 You Eastcoast and Canadian folks just don't know how to drive in the snow!!!! Now over here on the west coast, we could give y'all a lesson or two;)

I just lol'd.

Posted by bandi I just lol'd.

I thought it was funny too........

Posted by cr400 I've used paddle tires often in the sand. I wonder how they'd do in deep snow? Like 2 or 3 foot deep?

That tire is a little scary.......It sure seems to hook, but it could kill you dead very quickly.