Posted by cr400 That tire is a little scary.......It sure seems to hook, but it could kill you dead very quickly.

this gets done all the time here... especially during race season on the lake when (if) it freezes.

In the early '80's I bought a new 3 wheeler, A Honda 200x. That thing was a blast.

I do remember vividly, dabbing my foot to the ground in a very rocky section once, the damn thing crawled right up my leg. It hurt with just knobbies, I cant imagine what it'd feel like with spikes?

Posted by Samurai oddly enough, i was going to put snowtires on the Burrito this year, but when i started pricing them, the 'fuck that shit' light was blinking. I have brand new tires all the way around and goddamn it, i don't care if i'm upside down and burning in a ditch, they're going to stay on that fucking car! edit to this: Winter claims its first victim in my circle of friends. My friend Appleseeds' Cavalier kamikaze'd off a side road in Vermont this AM... Its fuxored. Ahem, and he HAD snowtires.

hood and roof vents???

glorious.

Posted by Price hood and roof vents??? glorious.

again, you have to know this guy to love him. He has this quirky sense of humor that has always made me laugh. His cars have always been like this, or a close parody of... Again, anything you see Appleseed driving, you never take seriously. He doesn't.

Posted by Nismo any one who thinks snow/ice/snow and ice tires are useless deserves a punch in the face

i dont agree with nismo much, if ever, and he personally irritates me to no end, but i will back him up to the grave on this one, ive driven with all seasons in winter and a good set of "winter" tires, snow tires is a misnomer, will help you on ice, believe me ive done a bit of driving on ice, there is a farmer out here who plows a path along lake st louis to avoid highway 132 in winter, i wouldnt dare take it without winter tires

Posted by Samurai again, you have to know this guy to love him. He has this quirky sense of humor that has always made me laugh. His cars have always been like this, or a close parody of... Again, anything you see Appleseed driving, you never take seriously. He doesn't.

i had a buddy, when the ricers in the 90s were putting stickers on honda civics he got a shitty assed 1979 civic and COVERED it with stickers, but they werent auto related, he had chocolate bar ads, political stickers (from ALL parties) you name it, there was no way to discern the original color of the car, as much as i hate hondas, that car was cool, of course the shock towers were rotted out so the hood lid was structural lol...

I've not driven a ton of snowy goodness, but I have done a fair share of it, offroad as well as on road.

My adventures are more sand, rocky, gravely, muddy. But a lack of traction and control are shared in all of these cases.

I've seen people come out with brand new tires, and get out performed by folks on tires with very little tread left.

It all boils down to. Planing ahead, reading the trail, tire inflation, skill, Balls, luck.

Good tires sure help. But I've had momentum take me places that traction never would have.

I've also had momentum take me places I never wanted to go.......

Posted by Samurai again, you have to know this guy to love him. He has this quirky sense of humor that has always made me laugh. His cars have always been like this, or a close parody of... Again, anything you see Appleseed driving, you never take seriously. He doesn't.

Definitely. A few of them have barely been roadworthy.

Posted by cr400 I've not driven a ton of snowy goodness, but I have done a fair share of it, offroad as well as on road. My adventures are more sand, rocky, gravely, muddy. But a lack of traction and control are shared in all of these cases. I've seen people come out with brand new tires, and get out performed by folks on tires with very little tread left. It all boils down to. Planing ahead, reading the trail, tire inflation, skill, Balls, luck. Good tires sure help. But I've had momentum take me places that traction never would have. I've also had momentum take me places I never wanted to go.......

Thats the truth! Ive been in more places in my first rig than the built 4 runner i had with new 35s on it. Was always hilarious to show up on the hardest trail around and get laughed at until you were though lines the built rigs couldnt reach. Momentum, truck setup, knowing how the truck behaves, and a bit of balls are what count offroad. Of course it can lead to flopping the truck attempting to go down a waterfall but that happens

Posted by cavemonkey Thats the truth! Ive been in more places in my first rig than the built 4 runner i had with new 35s on it. Was always hilarious to show up on the hardest trail around and get laughed at until you were though lines the built rigs couldnt reach. Momentum, truck setup, knowing how the truck behaves, and a bit of balls are what count offroad. Of course it can lead to flopping the truck attempting to go down a waterfall but that happens

my old 91 Cavalier was a bit of an adventure on wheels... i'd constantly take it places it should NOT have been.

Posted by Samurai my old 91 Cavalier was a bit of an adventure on wheels... i'd constantly take it places it should NOT have been.

Ive got a friend who used to drive a 88 celebrity station wagon in high school. He happened to figure out that 68 chevy truck springs will bolt right in and lift it about 4 inches or so lol. That car saw more air and mud than any other ive ever ridden in. Hell he used to take it up into the mountains and 4 wheeled the crap out of it. Always hilarious to be prying it over obstacles with downed branches! Eventually he had 2 KC daylighters bolted though the roof above the front bench, hurt like hell when you forgot to put on the seat belt when he jumped that bastard.

Posted by Samurai my old 91 Cavalier was a bit of an adventure on wheels... i'd constantly take it places it should NOT have been.

when i bought my sunfire that first year was a bitch, spent more time at the dealer than my own driveay. I would beat the shit out of the sunfire loaners they would give me, i got a pic somewhere of me driving one with all 4 wheels off the ground.

In 2008 about a year after I got the Hummer there was a flash freeze early morning in Kitchener on Hwy 7/8. I was tootin along no worries and suddenly car up ahead veers hard to the left, smokes the concrete wall. Then another tries to avoid him, and another, suddenly there's 5 in the walls or into each other.

As I slow down there's a white Chevy van at my front drivers corner. I watch through my window as a Honda Civic barrels past my drivers side and into his butt end....I watched his airbag go off through my drivers door window. Van was pushed in front of me, barely misses my corner. Impala plows into back of the Civic.

I was stopped, everyone around me seemed to be as well, I hopped out to see that everyone was okay. I counted 18 cars either into the wall or into other cars. Somehow nobody hurt, just a lot of twisted metal.

I drove off....slowly the last few clicks to work, unscathed!

Drove to Vegas for a wedding a few years ago, left very early in the morning, and arrived 6 hours later. We stayed around and gambled, went to the wedding, reception, gambled some more. We left for home around 10pm.

After 4 hours or so, I'm just droning along at 80 to 85 mph in my wifes Honda Element. I hear two large crack or pop sounds behind me, I look up just in time to see two pair of headlights about 10 feet behind me.

Only thing is these two idiots are doin' 130mph, I guess they're plan was to swoop past me on either side and try to scare us, not to sure of their intent?

Nobody in my car was awake except me (barely)

The only way I can figure is that, dipshit #1, lifted off the throttle, slightly before dipshit #2 did. (2 diverter valve pops?)

Dipshit #2, clips the rear of dipshit #1. As ds#1 slides sideways past me, he drifts in front of me, he's slowing at this point much faster than I am, so my front push bars impact the center of his passenger door.

My headlights are now glaring into his lowered Integra thru the window at 80mph sideways. I could see his scaucer like eyes lookin' up at us.

Ds#2 grazed the center divider.

We all came to a stop in the middle of Interstate 10. Nobody else around, my passengers were wide awake and more than a little freaked. Being woken up from a sound sleep by screeching tires, and a car stuck to the front of our vehicle @80mph has got to be pretty freaky?

Anyway they took off, I tried to catch them, but didn't know if our radiator had been damaged, so I pulled off and called 911.

Our car fucked, punks cars fucked, no injuries, no suspects in custody. End of shitty story.