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 'Dukes
    
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
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<Reply # 40 on 10/27/2003 12:56 AM >
|  | | | In this game, you can usually tell when a lock is a "formality". If you're treaspassing anyway, use your best judgement. Raplace the lock for safety reasons.
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
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Macsbug
Noble Donor
Location: St. Paul, MN
Gender: Male
Safety First!
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<Reply # 41 on 10/27/2003 1:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by tonydukes
In this game, you can usually tell when a lock is a "formality". If you're treaspassing anyway, use your best judgement. Raplace the lock for safety reasons.
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Also in this game, when you get to the 10th level, the CHUD's get laser eyesight, and shoot raw sewege from their arms. I am at level 5 so far with 154 HP.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." |
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
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<Reply # 42 on 10/27/2003 1:22 AM >
| | | | I stopped playing Dungeons and Dragons in 9th grade, which at this point is almost twenty years ago.
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
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DarkTreader
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 43 on 10/27/2003 4:29 AM >
|  | | | Posted by tonydukes
I stopped playing Dungeons and Dragons in 9th grade, which at this point is almost twenty years ago.
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Why'd you do that? I'm at level 3 with a +2 Flaming Burst Scimiter and 91 HP.
footsteps light, flashlights bright
-~ DT
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Macsbug
Noble Donor
Location: St. Paul, MN
Gender: Male
Safety First!
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<Reply # 44 on 10/27/2003 4:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by tonydukes
I stopped playing Dungeons and Dragons in 9th grade, which at this point is almost twenty years ago.
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Yeah, I never played it, seemed like a waste of time to me, but different people are into different things.
Back to lock ethics, I really like Freak's idea of if you cut the lock, to take it and get another one set with the same combo, it is just giving them a better secured area, is still as accesable for them, and you have the combo should you ever want to access the location again.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." |
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Decoy
Location: Leslieville
Gender: Male
Oh I have slipped the bonds of earth...
| | Re: Ethical Question
<Reply # 45 on 11/14/2003 7:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by macsbug
I really like Freak's idea of if you cut the lock, to take it and get another one set with the same combo, it is just giving them a better secured area, is still as accesable for them, and you have the combo should you ever want to access the location again.
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Wait. If you walk into a store and buy a lock with the same combo as the one you cut, why did you bother to cut it? I mean, how do you know the combo of the lock you're going to replace? Or did I mis-interpert what you were saying?
It's a drag, it's a bore, it's really such a pitty
To be lookin' at the board, not lookin' at the city. |
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DSM2nr203
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Ethical Question
<Reply # 46 on 11/14/2003 8:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by Decoy_MM
Posted by macsbug
I really like Freak's idea of if you cut the lock, to take it and get another one set with the same combo, it is just giving them a better secured area, is still as accesable for them, and you have the combo should you ever want to access the location again.
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Wait. If you walk into a store and buy a lock with the same combo as the one you cut, why did you bother to cut it? I mean, how do you know the combo of the lock you're going to replace? Or did I mis-interpert what you were saying?
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I was thinking the same thing at first, but couldnt you bring the old lock to a locksmith and have them figure out the combo for you? Dunno much about locks so im not sure.
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
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<Reply # 47 on 11/14/2003 8:34 PM >
| | | | you have to chop it apart and figure out what the code used to be.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Decoy
Location: Leslieville
Gender: Male
Oh I have slipped the bonds of earth...
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<Reply # 48 on 11/14/2003 11:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by Krazy
you have to chop it apart and figure out what the code used to be.
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I get it! Then you use a time machine and go back and open the lock with no hassle!
Here I come Doc Brown... I'll flux-incapacitate you.
It's a drag, it's a bore, it's really such a pitty
To be lookin' at the board, not lookin' at the city. |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
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<Reply # 49 on 11/14/2003 11:59 PM >
| | | | That's actually a really damn good idea. Diestructively dissect the lock, figuring out it's combination in the process, then hop in the Delorian and instead of cutting it open, just dial in the combo and live on in your own tangent of the space-time continuum. Now who's got the Mr. Fusion?...
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Decoy
Location: Leslieville
Gender: Male
Oh I have slipped the bonds of earth...
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<Reply # 50 on 11/15/2003 12:13 AM >
| | | | ANd what an awesome getaway car a Delorian would be eh? Well, unless you have luck like lone_ranger:
"I remember these twelve year old kids (must be that age) throwing rocks at my car"
Uhh, Biff? you sure you got like, 20 coats on LR's wheels?
It's a drag, it's a bore, it's really such a pitty
To be lookin' at the board, not lookin' at the city. |
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trynocorn
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<Reply # 51 on 11/15/2003 6:23 AM >
| | | | Don't cut locks, it'll be too obvious
Lock picking is the best way to go, they won't check for metallic dust in the lock (produced from the friction of the picks against the pins and such) unless you do something really illegal.
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Asylunt
Location: MPLS
Gender: Male
The Friendly Beer!
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<Reply # 52 on 11/15/2003 8:27 AM >
| | | | Of course you'd open up a paradox, if you never cut the lock and figured out it's combo, you'd never be able to go back and open it with the combo. Of course there is the possibility that you would actually fall into a tangent timeline and actually be living in a different dimension altogether. It all makes one scratch his head.
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain |
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Decoy
Location: Leslieville
Gender: Male
Oh I have slipped the bonds of earth...
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<Reply # 53 on 11/15/2003 3:10 PM >
| | | | Agreed. Tunnels can be disorienting enough, but timeline-shifting anomoly tangent-universe tunnels? makes my head spin.
So it's settled? No time-travel UE?
But just to be all inclusive, if anyone out there is from a seperate future and are now stuck in our plane of existence because you can't generate 1.21 jiga-watts, tell us what your opinion of time-shifting UE is like.
It's a drag, it's a bore, it's really such a pitty
To be lookin' at the board, not lookin' at the city. |
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Intalex
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Ascended Being
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<Reply # 54 on 11/19/2003 1:24 AM >
| | | | Just climb over the gate that the lock is locking. Or if its a door, find a window to hop through. And if there is no window, simply break the lock off. Kicking the door down is really expensive to undo, locks cost far less.
Sometimes it is possible to take the door off it's hinges using a screwdriver. There is also a type of door lock that is very easily unscrewed.
One of the best ways I've ever heard about, was one my friend discovered when snooping about an abandoned truck loading yard. He found a building with a lock on the door, so he climbed up onto the roof, removed some roof tiles and climbed through the hole. LOL. He went back out through the same hole, then replaced all the tiles.
I've not tried it, seems a bit dangerous to me, but that's the kind of mentality one needs to have.
TT
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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statik
Location: colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
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<Reply # 55 on 11/21/2003 3:12 PM >
| | | | So, is it okay to chloroform security guards?
None more black.. |
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trynocorn
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<Reply # 56 on 11/22/2003 7:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by statik
So, is it okay to chloroform security guards?
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hell yes.
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Intalex
This member has been banned
Ascended Being
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<Reply # 57 on 11/22/2003 10:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by statik
So, is it okay to chloroform security guards?
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Erm, no. What the hell are you going to do with the body? Just hide it? And unless there is only 1 guard, the one you've put to sleep will be missed.
And do you seriously think you are ever going to get a chance where you can sneak up behind the guard? These days, guards only walk about if they spot someone on the camera, or read a motion sensor report that looks out of place.
OK OK I'll admit I can't see any ethical reasons why you shouldn't chloroform a guard, I just don't see it as realistic.
Unless of course you are being sarcastic. In which case I've wasted some time typing this out...
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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statik
Location: colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
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<Reply # 58 on 11/22/2003 10:33 AM >
| | | | Posted by Twin Turbo
Unless of course you are being sarcastic. In which case I've wasted some time typing this out...
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Yep.
It's just interesting to see this huge insurgence of ethical/moral superiority in regards to the practice of a hobby that is inherently unethical...
But in retrospect, I'd be interested to see what people think.
(edited for the sake of clarity)
[last edit 11/22/2003 10:34 AM by statik - edited 1 times]
None more black.. |
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Intalex
This member has been banned
Ascended Being
| | Re: Ethical Question
<Reply # 59 on 11/22/2003 10:40 AM >
| | | | Posted by statik
Posted by Twin Turbo
Unless of course you are being sarcastic. In which case I've wasted some time typing this out...
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Yep.
It's just interesting to see this huge insurgence of ethical/moral superiority in regards to the practice of a hobby that is inherently unethical...
But in retrospect, I'd be interested to see what people think.
(edited for the sake of clarity)
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Well I think that as far as the law goes, yes it is unethical, but really it doesn't hurt anyone in its purest form. (apart from in accidental situations)
I think the idea of having ethics within an unethical ideal is to keep it from becoming crooked and generally chaotic. Especially since UE's increased popularity in recent years.
Even the nazi's had things that they would and wouldn't do for the sake of keeping some kind of order...
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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