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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras (Viewed 2360 times)

saturdayskids

Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Gender: Male

Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras
<Reply # 20 on 8/14/2007 6:26 PM >

Posted by blackhawk

Why? What? Don't play coy.

Why were you a dick in it? I dunno.

NextelCupMK This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: Waltham, Mass and Athenry, Galway Donkey Could KICK the ASS out of Action's monkey \| \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 21 on 8/15/2007 1:24 AM >

	most likely they won't look at the tapes unless something is damaged or missing spunking cock

junkyard Location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat. \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 22 on 8/15/2007 5:11 AM >

	It can't be done. If it has cameras, it is impossible. They probably have guard dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you. My guess is maybe even the dogs are the ones watching the cameras. I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner! Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite. Strategic Beer Command ruling the desert since 1995 http://www.strategic-beer-command.com

io organic industrialism

Posted by erty
most likely they won't look at the tapes unless something is damaged or missing

thanks for the info

like i said before, i don't plan on lockpicking or anything. if i try the doors and they are open, i will probably go in, but if they're locked (like the one on the ground floor was), i'll be content with taking pictures from the windows. there's also a ladder to the roof so i'll get a couple shots from up there, and then egress

blackhawk

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Posted by io organic industrialism

thanks for the info

So you talking about breaching a least one of the barbed wire fences to do so?

Bad news for you, modern rudimentary smart camera systems automatically sets an alert, which can be a real time alarm, and/or a log entry.
They don't need to review the tape to find it; it tells them.

This isn't 30 years ago, and although you have my sympathy in that respect, you'll need to know a who lot more than you do to clearly understand the potential for a real Grade A cluster fuck with this.
By posting this, twice... here, you've already screwed up!

You could just be shinning us on too

Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.

saturdayskids Location: Pittsburgh, PA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 25 on 8/15/2007 5:00 PM >

	people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds. Frank Zappa

blackhawk This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: Mission Control UER newbie \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 26 on 8/16/2007 5:16 AM >

	You can't protect a fool from themselves. Care to comment on smart cameras? Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.

io organic industrialism

Posted by blackhawk

So you talking about breaching a least one of the barbed wire fences to do so?

I've already breached the outer perimeter fence plenty of times, and the inner fence once (sunday). I only left when I noticed the camera.
At the moment, there are wide security holes that make entry effortless.
On the photo session in november, I had breeched the outer perimeter fence and was inside the facility for about 30 minutes and no security ever came

kelsey Location: Budapest, Hungary Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 28 on 8/17/2007 8:16 PM >

	... and thus, the problem was solved! as for social hacking - avoid it unless youre really good at it, no clipboard and no ties since that makes you suspicious and get the security guards ask all sortsa questions. if spotted, i'd say approach the guards in a friendly way, start walking towards them as soon as you see they spotted you, ask some questions, you can even ask for their permission on taking photos. tho, if I'd do that, I'd take the memory card out of the machine before doing so, that if they ask you to show them your camera they won't see any pictures. worst thing that could happen is that they throw you out of the place, in normal situations... however, this being a "911 hotspot"... [last edit 8/17/2007 8:18 PM by kelsey - edited 1 times]

rainman8889

Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.

Bye for now.

Posted by io organic industrialism
so .... nobody thinks i should actually do it?

cuz i'm gonna do it, regardless.

so i just need to formulate a good plan.

my girlfriend leans heavily towards me doing it during the day. she says to dress up in a business suit with a clipboard and write down stuff while i'm out there.

i dunno

Then good luck and hopefully you won't get caught.

As for approaching a construction supervisor (aka Site Foreman), just use the magical devices called "legs" and walk up to the guy. Ask politely. Regardless of if he says "Yes" or "No", thank him for his time.

Gone for a while. Be back when I'm back.

io organic industrialism \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 30 on 8/20/2007 4:53 PM >

	well i ballzed it up this weekend and went ahead and did it. i was INCREDIBLY close to getting caught. here's a quick summary... old burned out building turbines come right in? i think i will. thank you, trench. view from the door on the right view from the door on the left... you can see the generators. wish there weren't blinds though as i was leaving, i looked over at the front gate, and there was a white truck parked, the gate was open, and a security guard. at first i thought i had gotten caught, but it turned out his back was turned to me, so i made a quick decision to escape out the back entrance and hope i wasn't seen. several other things went in my favor as far as timing, and i ended up getting all the way back to my car without getting caught. all in all, very worth it

saturdayskids Location: Pittsburgh, PA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 31 on 8/20/2007 5:02 PM >

	Awesome timing dude. I also liked the pictures you sent me, just didn't have the time to e-mail back

io organic industrialism \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 32 on 8/20/2007 5:31 PM >

	yeah it was a lot of fun. i mean seriously, how often in life do you get to sneak around security guards and cameras?

blackhawk This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: Mission Control UER newbie \| \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 33 on 8/20/2007 5:42 PM >

	That looks more like a pumping station rather than a hydroelectric. Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.

io organic industrialism \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 34 on 8/20/2007 5:47 PM >

	i'm really not sure the function of this building... all i know is it's at the same site as the dam which is definitely for electricity generation

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Posted by io organic industrialism
i'm really not sure the function of this building... all i know is it's at the same site as the dam which is definitely for electricity generation

In the US it's unwise to infiltrate active public water facilities...

You might want to pull those pics, now, if you don't work there or have permission to be there... assuming things are as they seem.

Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.

micro Gender: Male Slowly I turned \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 36 on 8/20/2007 6:10 PM >

	It does kind of look like a pumping station for drinking water. If it was just a station for flood plain management then I doubt they'd go all out with the fencing the way they have. I wouldn't bother taking the pictures down at this point, but in the future it's probably a good idea to have some idea what places are before jumping in.

io organic industrialism \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 37 on 8/20/2007 6:27 PM >

	they only added the outside fence within the past 2 years. i never posted the geographical location so i think i'm ok from an internet search standpoint. plus if anybody did track me down and find this post, they would see that i'm just overly curious and not out to sabotage the nation's infrastructure

io organic industrialism \|	Re: Security cameras at a hydroelectric facility. They are tearing down a dam and I need advice on how safe it is to walk around one of the buildings with security cameras <Reply # 38 on 8/20/2007 8:15 PM >

	wow i guess i should have payed attention to my research a little more ... i found the original newspaper article about the original plans to destroy the dam. it says the city operates a pumping station upstream from the dam. i guess i just always thought they meant further upstream, and i didn't know the pumping station was right there. it also says that the city is interested in safeguarding the water supply and that "safety concerns led them to limit public access"... [last edit 8/20/2007 8:16 PM by io organic industrialism - edited 1 times]

CaptOrbit

Location: Sarasota, FL or Cincinnati, OH
Gender: Male

There you are, right back in the jungle again.

This is what you get for asking questions.

Post by io organic industrialism

i never posted the geographical location so i think i'm ok from an internet search standpoint. plus if anybody did track me down and find this post, they would see that i'm just overly curious and not out to sabotage the nation's infrastructure

Probably, but you've also (whether you meant to or not) publicly embarrassed them by successfully breaching their security measures. You never know when somebody will decide that they need to make an example of someone whom they perceive as having "defied" them.

The personal responsibility train left the station years ago, and you gave it the finger as you watched it leave.

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