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 Axle
      
Location: Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
 |  | Changes in the Security Industry
< on 8/22/2007 4:17 PM >
|  | | | Since this is Ontario specific I'll post it here and not main.
The Security legislation in Ontario hasn't changed since 1966, until now. There are changes coming in the industry. You can read about them here:
http://ogov.newswi...atch=&lang=_e.html
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 1 on 8/23/2007 1:41 AM >
| | | | Posted by Axle
Since this is Ontario specific I'll post it here and not main.
The Security legislation in Ontario hasn't changed since 1966, until now. There are changes coming in the industry. You can read about them here:
http://ogov.newswi...atch=&lang=_e.html
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All hail pre-election legislation changes, to grab more of your vote.
The licensing I suspect is another cash grab. ALthough training standards do vary greatly across companies, I'd certainly like to know what they mean by this. As for standards relating to uniforms and vehicles, it'd be great if intelligarde didn't insist on looking and acting like real cops, for a start.
The proposed legislative changes will address the main issues of:
- mandatory licensing for all security personnel
- licence portability (allowing an individual to change jobs within
the industry without having to reapply for a licence)
- training standards
- standards for uniforms, equipment and vehicles used by
security personnel.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| |  | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 2 on 8/23/2007 11:39 AM >
| | | | Ha-ha, the cake walk is over. Welcome to post 911!
More fun to come...
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Agent Skelly
   
Web Sheriff
Location: Oregon Territory
Gender: Male
Prenez De L'Avance Avec Chrysler!
| |  |  | | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 3 on 8/23/2007 11:47 AM >
| | | | I'm waiting for ExKa's comment on this....
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 4 on 8/23/2007 12:17 PM >
|  | | | To make a long story short, it won't do a thing to make Ontario safer. Those already in the industry are going to be grandfathered into the new licensing system. Record searches only go back 5 years. This is purely political, it won't change a thing.
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Hi/Po
Location: Earth
Gender: Male
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 5 on 8/23/2007 1:08 PM >
| | | | More importantly, will this affect infiltration?
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 6 on 8/23/2007 1:29 PM >
| | | | I don't see anything in that document that would suggest that might be the case.
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Aggressive
Location: Toronto
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 7 on 8/23/2007 2:42 PM >
| | | | Posted by Hi/Po
More importantly, will this affect infiltration?
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Standard uniforms and cars will make it easier to identify security guards perhaps?
I bet there going to force security companies to use GM to help out Ontarios auto sector.
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Curious_George
Location: Cambridge
Gender: Male
Straight outta New Bedlam
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 8 on 8/23/2007 8:10 PM >
| | | | Hmm...to bad there is not any legislations dealing with the attitude/conduct of the OPP when dealing with Manitobans in N.W. Ontario.
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blackhawk
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| | | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 9 on 8/23/2007 8:14 PM >
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They will have the power to arrest, and use force to do so, including to use of weapons.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 10 on 8/23/2007 9:50 PM >
| | | | Uhm.. a lot of guards already have those powers. What's new is mandatory training to ensure that guards know how to use those powers responsibly. This comes after someone died from an altercation with security guards in a grocery store back in '99. An inquest was later held and that was one of the recommendations.
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NoSuchPerson
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| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 11 on 8/23/2007 10:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
They will have the power to arrest, and use force to do so, including to use of weapons.
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We already do.
Okay, as luck would have it, I was pulled into a management meeting today for 6 hours to discuss the changes to the PISGA and how it's going to affect the officers in the field.
The new regulations came into effect today (August 23rd)..I'll break it down in point form.
Licenses. Previous to today, a security guard/private investigator licese was sponsored by the company and issued to the employee only while employed by that company. For example, if you worked for Group 4, your license was good only at Group 4 and must be returned upon termination of employment. The new regulations state as of today, that the license is now owned by the person rather than the company. This means that you no longer have to surrender it upon termination of employment. This makes it easier to change companies, as in the past you would have to wait up to a month for a new license. In addition, this now lets you work for more than one company at time. A security company is not allowed to prevent this through clauses in your employment agreement, so you're free game to work for several security companies at a time. In addition, in the past, in house security such as those at the Eaton Centre or First Canadian Place didn't need to be licensed - that's changed. Same deal for bouncers at a club. Also, anyone who is considered "corporate security" will need to be licensed.
Background Checks. Previous to today, a criminal record search only came back with a positive hit if the offence occoured in the last 5 years. With the new legislation, you still need to have a clean record in the past 5 years, however there is a list of some 80 offences that will cause your license to be denied, regardless of how far back they are. Such offences include Armed Robbery, Assault causing Bodily Harm - that sort of thing.
Uniforms. Under the new legislation, security officers will no longer be able to wear pants with any piping. That is, a coloured stripe. Sucks to be you Intelligarde. Uniform shirts cannot be black anymore. The rumour is that they can be white, gray or blue.
Vehicles. Cannot be white, they must not have red or blue striping on them. They also must have "SECURITY" visible on all 4 sides.
Training. There will be a mandated 40 hour training program that ALL security guards must complete, even if you've been in the industry for 20 years. This will be provincialy mandated and regulated to ensure that every security officer/private investigator in Ontario will have the exact same minimum training.
There's probably a few other things I'm forgetting, but that's the bulk of it.
The goal is to standardize the selection, training and uniforming of all security personel in Ontario, regardless if you're guarding a construction site, doing armed security at a residence or are the director of corporate security at a major government account.
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NoSuchPerson
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| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 12 on 8/23/2007 10:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by micro
Uhm.. a lot of guards already have those powers. |
A lot, as in - all. Provincial law permits any security guard to detain you, and authorizes them to use as much force is as necessary to keep you from leaving. According to the use of force continnum, you are allowed to use "Force +1". So, if I arrest someone and they kick me, I'm full well allowed to use a baton upside their kidney, and such force would be justified.
Company policy however, may dictate otherwise. Securitas for example, has a company policy that states guards are not to arrest. If a guard chooses to arrest, he/she would be legally allowed to do it, but the company won't back them - and would probaby fire them.
As for guards with guns - several companies (Group 4, Garda, Intercon, etc...) have armed divisions. However, they are limited to those carrying money, high-ticket items (IE, jewlery) and those doing VIP protection (IE, a body guard).
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 13 on 8/23/2007 10:10 PM >
| | | | Sorry for the lengthy post, but I found this:
New Law Sets Stricter Standards For Private Security Industry
First Significant Change To Private Security Industry In Ontario Since
1966
TORONTO, Aug. 23 /CNW/ - New legislation comes into effect today that
will make Ontarians safer through stricter regulation of the private security
industry, Community Safety and Correctional Services Minister Monte Kwinter
said.
"We need to make sure that security personnel have the resources and
training they need to help make communities safer," Kwinter said. "The law
sets out new and stricter standards to better protect the public while
improving professionalism within this important industry."
The Private Security and Investigative Services Act, 2005, requires all
private security practitioners to be licensed, including in-house security
staff, such as those working for retailers and bars. In-house security staff
were exempt from licensing under the old law. These individuals will have
until August 23, 2008, to obtain their licences. As well, businesses that
employ in-house security staff must register with the ministry's Private
Security and Investigative Services Branch by August 23, 2008.
The new licences will be portable, allowing individuals to change jobs
within the industry without having to reapply for a licence.
The act also sets out new training requirements and regulates the type of
uniforms, equipment and vehicles that can be used by private security
personnel.
"We will continue to work with the security industry to implement changes
in a fair and open way," Kwinter said. "These measures will increase the
professionalism of the industry and reflect the growing role it plays in
Ontario."
For more information on the act, as well as licence and registration
forms, visit the ministry's website at www.ontario.ca/private-security or
contact the Private Security and Investigative Services Branch at 416-212-1650
or 1-866-767-7454.
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Disponible en français
www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca
Backgrounder
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STRENGTHENING PROFESSIONALISM IN ONTARIO'S SECURITY INDUSTRY
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The Private Security and Investigative Services Act (PSISA), 2005, is the
first significant legislative change governing the industry since 1966. The
changes will better protect Ontarians and better reflect the roles and growing
numbers of security personnel in our communities.
Mandatory Licensing
PSISA makes licensing and training mandatory for all security personnel,
including in-house security staff, such as those working for retailers, bars
and the Corps of Commissionaires. In-house security staff were exempt from
licensing under the old law. These individuals will have until August 23,
2008, to obtain their licences. As well, businesses that employ in-house
security staff must register with the ministry's Private Security and
Investigative Services Branch by August 23, 2008.
Licence Portability
The legislative changes allow an individual to change jobs within the
industry without having to reapply for a licence. There are approximately
50,000 new licence or renewal applications that come to the Ministry of
Community Safety and Correctional Services every year and only 33,000 licence
holders. The difference in the number of licensed personnel and the number of
applications reflects the high turnover rate in the industry.
Training and Testing Standards
New training and testing standards will come into force on November 30,
2008. These new standards will set out competencies and examinations for
applicants and current licence holders. Once the training and testing
regulation comes into effect, current licence holders will have to complete a
standardized test to renew their licence.
The basic training standard will be available in fall 2007 and will
include:
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- Knowledge of relevant legislation (i.e., PSISA, the Trespass to
Property Act and relevant sections of the Criminal Code)
- Powers of arrest
- Communications and public relations skills
- First aid and cardiopulmonary resuscitation
- On-the-job skills (report writing, note taking and diversity
sensitivity).
Uniforms, Equipment and Vehicles
The legislation and its regulations set out new standards for uniforms,
insignia and equipment used by security personnel. These new standards
identify colours, markings and wording that may appear on vehicles used by
security personnel. This will help reduce possible confusion between security
vehicles and cars used by police services in Ontario.
While the standards for equipment come into effect immediately, licensees
will have until August 23, 2009, to comply with the standards for uniforms and
vehicles.
Consulting the Security Industry
This legislation was adopted after extensive consultation with industry
associations, firms employing security personnel and police services.
An advisory group made up of industry representatives worked with the
ministry to develop regulations under the new legislation.
For More Information
Visit the ministry's website at www.ontario.ca/private-security or contact
the Private Security and Investigative Services Branch at (416) 212-1650 or
1-866-767-7454.
Contact:
Anthony Brown
Ministry of Community Safety and Correctional Services
416-314-7772
Disponible en français
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 14 on 8/23/2007 10:17 PM >
| | | | Listed below are the Criminal Offences that are "blacklisted". That is, if you've been convicted of one and have NOT been granted a pardon, your license will not be renewed nor will you be granted a new one. If you have a record and the offence isn't on this list, as long as it's been more than 5 years - you're in the clear.
Offences under the Criminal Code (Canada)
Paragraph 57 (1) (a) or (b)
Forgery of or uttering forged passport
Paragraph 83.02 (a) or (b)
Providing or collecting property for certain activities
Paragraph 83.03 (a) or (b)
Providing, making available, etc., property or services for terrorist purposes
Paragraph 83.04 (a) or (b)
Using or possessing property for terrorist purposes
Subsection 83.18 (1)
Participation in activity of terrorist group
Subsection 83.19 (1)
Facilitating terrorist activity
Subsection 83.21 (1)
Instructing to carry out activity for terrorist group
Subsection 83.22 (1)
Instructing to carry out terrorist activity
Section 83.23
Harbouring or concealing terrorists
Section 83.231
Hoax regarding terrorist activity
Paragraph 121 (1) (a), (b), (c), (d), (e) or (f)
Frauds on the government
Paragraph 129 (a), (b) or (c)
Offences related to public or peace officer
Paragraph 130 (a) or (b)
Personating peace officer
Section 151
Sexual interference
Section 152
Invitation to sexual touching
Paragraph 153 (1) (a) or (b)
Sexual exploitation
Paragraph 153.1 (1) (a) or (b)
Sexual exploitation of person with disability
Subsection 163.1 (2) or (3)
Child pornography — making, distributing, etc.
Section 170
Parent or guardian procuring sexual activity
Paragraph 172.1 (1) (a), (b) or (c)
Luring a child
Section 220
Causing death by criminal negligence
Subsection 235 (1)
Murder — first or second degree
Section 239
Attempt to commit murder
Paragraph 244 (a), (b) or (c)
Causing bodily harm with intent — firearm
Section 245
Administering noxious thing
Subsection 264 (1)
Criminal harassment
Paragraph 267 (a) or (b)
Assault with a weapon or causing bodily harm
Subsection 268 (1)
Aggravated assault
Section 269.1
Torture
Paragraph 270 (1) (a)
Assaulting a peace officer
Section 270.1
Disarming a peace officer
Paragraph 272 (1) (a), (b), (c) or (d)
Sexual assault with a weapon, threats to a third party or causing bodily harm
Subsection 273 (1)
Aggravated sexual assault
Paragraph 279 (1) (a), (b) or (c)
Kidnapping
Paragraph 279.1 (a) or (b)
Hostage taking
Subsection 280 (1)
Abduction of person under sixteen
Section 281
Abduction of person under fourteen
Subsection 282 (1)
Abduction in contravention of custody order
Subsection 283 (1)
Abduction
Subsection 318 (1)
Advocating genocide
Subsections 319 (1) and (2)
Public incitement of hatred, wilful promotion of hatred
Paragraph 322 (1) (a), (b), (c) or (d)
Theft
Section 324
Theft by bailee of things under seizure
Paragraph 326 (1) (a) or (b)
Theft of telecommunication service
Paragraph 342 (1) (a), (b), (c) or (d)
Theft, forgery, etc. of credit card
Paragraph 343 (a), (b), (c) or (d)
Robbery
Section 345
Stopping mail with intent
Subsection 346 (1)
Extortion
Paragraph 348 (1) (a), (b) or (c)
Breaking and entering with intent, committing offence or breaking out
Paragraph 356 (1) (a) or (b)
Theft from mail
Section 361
False pretence
Paragraph 362 (1) (a), (b), (c) or (d)
False pretence or false statement
Paragraph 363 (a) or (b)
Obtaining execution of valuable security by fraud
Paragraph 366 (1) (a) or (b)
Forgery
Paragraph 368 (1) (a) or (b)
Uttering forged document
Paragraph 374 (a) or (b)
Drawing document without authority, etc.
Section 375
Obtaining, etc., by instrument based on forged document
Subsection 380 (1)
Fraud
Paragraph 382 (a), (b) or (c)
Fraudulent manipulation of stock exchange transactions
Paragraph 385 (1) (a) or (b)
Fraudulent concealment of title documents
Paragraph 386 (a), (b) or (c)
Fraudulent registration of title
Section 387
Fraudulent sale of real property
Paragraph 388 (1) (a) or (b)
Misleading receipt
Paragraph 389 (1) (a) or (b)
Fraudulent disposal of goods on which money advanced
Paragraph 390 (a) or (b)
Fraudulent receipts under Bank Act
Paragraph 392 (a) or (b)
Disposal of property to defraud creditors
Paragraph 393 (1) (a), (b) or (c)
Fraud in relation to fares, etc.
Paragraph 394 (1) (a) or (b)
Fraud in relation to valuable minerals
Section 394.1
Possession of stolen or fraudulently obtained valuable minerals
Paragraph 396 (1) (a) or (b)
Offences related to mines
Paragraph 406 (a) or (b)
Forging trade-mark
Paragraph 423 (1) (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f) or (g)
Intimidation
Paragraph 423.1 (1) (a), (b) or (c)
Intimidation of a justice system participant
Subsection 430 (4.1)
Mischief relating to religious property
Paragraph 433 (a) or (b)
Arson/disregard for human life
Section 434
Arson/damage to property
Section 434.1
Arson/own property
Subsection 435 (1)
Arson for fraudulent purpose
Subsection 436 (1)
Arson by negligence
Paragraph 462.31 (1) (a) or (b)
Laundering proceeds of crime
Subsection 467.11 (1)
Participation in activities of criminal organization
Offences under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (Canada)
Subsection 5 (1)
Trafficking in substance
Subsection 6 (1)
Importing and exporting
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 15 on 8/23/2007 10:40 PM >
| | | | Thanks for posting that Excalibur...
This..."Background Checks. Previous to today, a criminal record search only came back with a positive hit if the offence occoured in the last 5 years. With the new legislation, you still need to have a clean record in the past 5 years, however there is a list of some 80 offences that will cause your license to be denied, regardless of how far back they are. Such offences include Armed Robbery, Assault causing Bodily Harm - that sort of thing" was particularly useful, and I do agree that this is an improvement. In fact it should apply across the board for all positions of public service, teaching etc.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 16 on 8/24/2007 12:57 AM >
| | | | Paragraph 153.1 (1) (a) or (b)
Sexual exploitation of person with disability
Yikes.
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 17 on 8/24/2007 1:41 AM >
| | | | From the sounds of things, they're more or less picking out the more serious crimes. Personally, I think it should be such that if you were indicted, you're out - no exceptions. And if you were convicted summarily, it's up for discussion.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 18 on 8/24/2007 2:41 AM >
| | | | I'm excluded because of at least 27 of those offenses. Damn.
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Aggressive
Location: Toronto
| | Re: Changes in the Security Industry
<Reply # 19 on 8/24/2007 8:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by Curious_George
Hmm...to bad there is not any legislations dealing with the attitude/conduct of the OPP when dealing with Manitobans in N.W. Ontario.
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Reminds me when the simpsons visit manitoba "We were born here... Whats your excuse?"
I really like the fact that their security cars must now have stripes and security on all 4 sides. Tired of having to figure out if its a rent a cop on the highway or the real deal.
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