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1 2   UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Winter in the drains (Viewed 1289 times) Chris Hansen  I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. Why dont you have a seat over there?  |  |  |  Winter in the drains < on 12/20/2008 9:31 AM >   Hey i have a predicament, Here in Minnesota it gets rather cold in the winter and the drains freeze. theoretically what would be the best way to go about a slippery tunnel? also to consider icy inclines and rungs in the tunnel that might need climbing. My name is Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC's To Catch a Predator. Why don't you have a seat over there? Samurai  Vehicular Lord Rick Location: northeastern New York No matter where you go, there you are...  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 1 on 12/20/2008 9:46 AM >   http://www.cabelas...at=Google_NonBrand and, just in case... http://www.acmecli...IEWPROD&ProdID=255 MindHacker  Location: Suburbs of DC Gender: Male If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 2 on 12/22/2008 5:56 PM >   Lots of waterproof clothing just incase it didn't all freeze, and I agree with the stabber things (axes, if you want to be technically accurate.) I wouldn't go with crampons because I think it'd be more fun without, but they would certainly make it easier, and might make the axes totally unnecessary, i mean usually in ice climbing they are only used on the straight-up parts and when falling. Other than that I'll recommend a rope, because they always come in useful. "That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire shuzzi  Location: New Hampshire Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 3 on 12/22/2008 9:07 PM >   no dude, you def should have a pair of crampons. a simple pair that straps on over your boots is fine. as for an ice axe... i guess you could buy one if you want one, but i don't think you'll need one for drains, and considering good a good one will be around $60, it's more of a waste of money unless you are going into some pretty epic drains or some good winter hiking. they're a nice thing to have if you need it but i'm gonna say don't bother. but again, as for the crampons i would highly recommend them, plus you can find a decent pair for what you plan on using them for, for around $30. Samurai  Vehicular Lord Rick Location: northeastern New York No matter where you go, there you are...  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 4 on 12/22/2008 9:24 PM >   Posted by shuzzi no dude, you def should have a pair of crampons. a simple pair that straps on over your boots is fine. as for an ice axe... i guess you could buy one if you want one, but i don't think you'll need one for drains, and considering good a good one will be around $60, it's more of a waste of money unless you are going into some pretty epic drains or some good winter hiking. they're a nice thing to have if you need it but i'm gonna say don't bother. but again, as for the crampons i would highly recommend them, plus you can find a decent pair for what you plan on using them for, for around $30. living in the Adirondacks, we go by the 'better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it' ethos. chumpster  Location: chicago Gender: Male Mondo Rondo  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 5 on 12/22/2008 9:37 PM >   don't go in them http://flickr.com/photos/applefaces/ MindHacker  Location: Suburbs of DC Gender: Male If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 6 on 12/22/2008 10:02 PM >   Posted by chumpster don't go in them hahahahahahahahahaha. Thanks for that. "That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire shotgun mario  Location: MSP Gender: Male MSP Elite™ Card-Carrying Member  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 7 on 12/22/2008 11:07 PM >   Posted by chumpster go in them fixed. um, like everyone else said; studs on the waders for sections with solid ice, warm clothes between you & the inside of your waders (heat transfer from the water, which may be near freezing). Drains don't usually freeze unless it's in direct contact with moving air current from the outside, so don't expect it to be solid ice through and through, maybe just near manholes, gutter boxes, grill rooms, inlets & outlets, side tunnels, etc.. Hip waders (I would think) are now mandatory to keep from freezing on the way back to the car, if you weren't wearing them during summer draining. wear a stocking cap, and a light jacket, verses a heavy coat, as underground it shouldn't get really cold, because you don't want to get sweated, or have to carry a coat. Gloves if climbing manhole ladders, to keep wet hands from freezing to cold ladder rungs.... that's about all I can think of for now. If you want to protect the locations you love to explore, don't talk about them online in public! If you want to make exploring friends, send people private messages! Meet up in real life! Get off the internet! Don't try to have a UER e-penis! You won't impress anyone! This especially means you, Minneapolis MN newbies! \/adder  Location: DunkarooLand Gender: Male I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 8 on 12/22/2008 11:57 PM >   Well for ice fishing; me and my dad have been using CMI Ice Cleats for years... They can be picked up at most sporting goods stores for <$10 http://www.cmi-gea...tials/icecleat.asp "No risk, no reward, no fun." "Go all the way or walk away" escensi omnis... shotgun mario  Location: MSP Gender: Male MSP Elite™ Card-Carrying Member  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 9 on 12/23/2008 5:46 AM >   in the drainers forum, a lot of people were talking about studs that screwed into the bottom of your boots. I can't find the link, as the search won't work in the drainer forum [at least for me] but if anyone else remembers where it is, it'd be nice to share. If you want to protect the locations you love to explore, don't talk about them online in public! If you want to make exploring friends, send people private messages! Meet up in real life! Get off the internet! Don't try to have a UER e-penis! You won't impress anyone! This especially means you, Minneapolis MN newbies! Chris Hansen  I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. Why dont you have a seat over there?  |  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 10 on 12/23/2008 4:15 PM >   Thanks everyone that was super helpful. merry christmas happy new year and good luck on all UE's! My name is Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC's To Catch a Predator. Why don't you have a seat over there? theendofpangaea  Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Gender: Female  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 11 on 1/11/2009 6:44 AM >   Does anyone deal with drains that are completely blocked by thick ice walls underneath manholes? How do you go about breaking through them? See photo for example, sorry my photography skills are lacking. click to view Assistance  "Run Away! It's an... um... Run away!"  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 12 on 1/11/2009 6:57 AM >   I keep hearing that the temperature inside drains is a constant 68 degrees Fahrenheit year round. Why would the water be frozen? Sometimes I wonder if my obsession with flashlights led to my interest in Urban Exploration, or conversely, if my interest in exploration led to my flashlight obsession shotgun mario  Location: MSP Gender: Male MSP Elite™ Card-Carrying Member  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 13 on 1/11/2009 7:29 AM >   Posted by Assistance I keep hearing that the temperature inside drains is a constant 68 degrees Fahrenheit year round. Why would the water be frozen? Post by shotgun_mario Drains don't usually freeze unless it's in direct contact with moving air current from the outside, so don't expect it to be solid ice through and through, maybe just near manholes, gutter boxes, grill rooms, inlets & outlets, side tunnels, etc.. Post by theendofpangaeaDoes anyone deal with drains that are completely blocked by thick ice walls underneath manholes? How do you go about breaking through them? If you want to protect the locations you love to explore, don't talk about them online in public! If you want to make exploring friends, send people private messages! Meet up in real life! Get off the internet! Don't try to have a UER e-penis! You won't impress anyone! This especially means you, Minneapolis MN newbies! shotgun mario  Location: MSP Gender: Male MSP Elite™ Card-Carrying Member  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 14 on 1/11/2009 7:33 AM >   Posted by theendofpangaea Does anyone deal with drains that are completely blocked by thick ice walls underneath manholes? How do you go about breaking through them? See photo for example, sorry my photography skills are lacking. click to view ice pick? dynamite? sorry, can't really help you there. But if there's enough water to freeze like that, wouldn't there still be liquid water flowing on the inside of that? personally, I wouldn't want to have to go through that thing then if you managed to break that ice, unless I had a strong umbrella. being wet + cold outside = shotgun not being a happy explorer If you want to protect the locations you love to explore, don't talk about them online in public! If you want to make exploring friends, send people private messages! Meet up in real life! Get off the internet! Don't try to have a UER e-penis! You won't impress anyone! This especially means you, Minneapolis MN newbies! Assistance  "Run Away! It's an... um... Run away!"  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 15 on 1/11/2009 7:35 AM >   Ok, then why would someone need ice boots for only infrequent walls of ice? Sometimes I wonder if my obsession with flashlights led to my interest in Urban Exploration, or conversely, if my interest in exploration led to my flashlight obsession Assistance  "Run Away! It's an... um... Run away!"  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 16 on 1/11/2009 7:38 AM >   Posted by theendofpangaea Does anyone deal with drains that are completely blocked by thick ice walls underneath manholes? How do you go about breaking through them? See photo for example, sorry my photography skills are lacking. click to view Finally an excuse to bring a sledgehammer while UEing! Sometimes I wonder if my obsession with flashlights led to my interest in Urban Exploration, or conversely, if my interest in exploration led to my flashlight obsession shotgun mario  Location: MSP Gender: Male MSP Elite™ Card-Carrying Member  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 17 on 1/11/2009 7:39 AM >   Posted by Assistance Ok, then why would someone need ice boots for only infrequent walls of ice? i wouldn't say ice boots personally, but I did suggest some studs to add to the bottom of your waders if you're using an inlet/outlet, so that you/I don't slip and break your ass on some concrete. at least I don't want to do that... If you want to protect the locations you love to explore, don't talk about them online in public! If you want to make exploring friends, send people private messages! Meet up in real life! Get off the internet! Don't try to have a UER e-penis! You won't impress anyone! This especially means you, Minneapolis MN newbies! shuzzi  Location: New Hampshire Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 18 on 1/11/2009 11:44 PM >   Posted by theendofpangaea Does anyone deal with drains that are completely blocked by thick ice walls underneath manholes? How do you go about breaking through them? See photo for example, sorry my photography skills are lacking. click to view dear god Ram23  Location: Cincinnati, OH and/or Queens, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Winter in the drains <Reply # 19 on 1/13/2009 6:38 PM >   I always make sure and have a pair of these: Cincinnati UE Photos: http://zfein.com/photography UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Winter in the drains (Viewed 1289 times) 1 2   All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. 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