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UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Reading Drain Maps (Viewed 5414 times)
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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 20 on 2/17/2009 10:03 PM >
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If you could do that it would be great. I had to change the file type from .tiff to .jpg. I would appreciate that. And I guess the main trouble I'm having is finding the size of them. Also, knowing the meaning of the drawings at some of the pages would be great.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 21 on 2/17/2009 10:14 PM >
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On my similar quest for drain maps, I got this email in response to my request:

Good morning Megan,
The map you are requesting is available for purchase. The cost depends on the actual page size. An 8 ½ X 11 is $15.00, an 11 X 17 is $20.00 and all sizes above those are $20.00 per linear foot.



I take this to mean the page-- 8.5x11 is tiny!-- is only a small section of the city, right? I can't imagine getting the entire drain schematic on a sheet of computer paper and be able to get anything out of it.

Also... 15.00$... I'm a starving art student, haha. Is it worth it?


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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 22 on 2/17/2009 11:53 PM >
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Posted by ILJL
On my similar quest for drain maps, I got this email in response to my request:

Good morning Megan,
The map you are requesting is available for purchase. The cost depends on the actual page size. An 8 ½ X 11 is $15.00, an 11 X 17 is $20.00 and all sizes above those are $20.00 per linear foot.



I take this to mean the page-- 8.5x11 is tiny!-- is only a small section of the city, right? I can't imagine getting the entire drain schematic on a sheet of computer paper and be able to get anything out of it.

Also... 15.00$... I'm a starving art student, haha. Is it worth it?



I think these types of maps might be better if you're really stuck on getting into something. I kind of view detailed maps as a last resort. Drains really aren't that hard to find anyway. Taking the time to look for outfalls or doing a bit of extra research elsewhere is a lot cheaper and tends to make things a lot more interesting as well.


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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 23 on 2/18/2009 12:07 AM >
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I personally wouldn't fork out 15$ for a map. Did you try e-mailing your cities Utility center, or Records Center?

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 24 on 2/18/2009 12:10 AM >
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Posted by micro


I think these types of maps might be better if you're really stuck on getting into something. I kind of view detailed maps as a last resort. Drains really aren't that hard to find anyway. Taking the time to look for outfalls or doing a bit of extra research elsewhere is a lot cheaper and tends to make things a lot more interesting as well.



I'm with you, micro - finding the things is at least half the fun.

Of course, I probably only have that attitude because I don't have any maps

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 25 on 2/18/2009 1:46 AM >
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Yeah, you're right... I'll save it as a last resort.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 26 on 2/18/2009 3:34 PM >
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How quickly did you cities get back to you? I've been waiting for a couple days, and nothing. I'm afraid they may have just thrown my request out

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 27 on 2/18/2009 6:42 PM >
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It was only a couple days, but I'm in a pretty small city.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 28 on 2/19/2009 12:39 AM >
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I'm in Baltimore, and they sent them the very next day. You could always try again? Or just find the building where they keep the files, and you can go request them. You should be able to find there hours of operation on the website that you got the e-mail address.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 29 on 2/19/2009 1:42 AM >
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Damn, that was some strong index locking on those things. Took a bit to get to the data underneath.

here's the links to 3 of them with various details:

http://shotgunmari...pages.com/map1.jpg
http://shotgunmari...pages.com/map2.JPG
http://shotgunmari...pages.com/map3.jpg


I don't get major bandwidth allowed, so if you're going to look, be sure and download them right away. If it ends up I can't have 3, I'll strip it down to one, but in reality it shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 30 on 2/19/2009 2:11 AM >
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Thanks for doing that for me.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 31 on 2/20/2009 11:20 PM >
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Anyone take a stab at reading them?

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 32 on 2/21/2009 1:34 AM >
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I have atempted to make sense of them. All of the diferent lines makes it very confusing. But I tried. I took these from the second map

125963.jpg (71 kb, 472x480)
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This section is from the far right and middle.

125962.jpg (71 kb, 480x477)
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This section is from the far left and middle (I think)

I made this as a sort of key, to try and help you decipher the rest. After looking at this though, I think a faster and easier way of finding drains is to just look a USGS topographical map and look for where the streams end. I'm starting to think that these maps are more work that they are worth.

Edit: it seems that the writing on the last one is too small, so here is what it says in the bottom right corner
"This is the drain (culvert?) similar to the one in the first picture. It also goes under the road."

If you can't read anything else, just tell me.
[last edit 2/21/2009 1:36 AM by Dick Winter - edited 1 times]

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 33 on 2/21/2009 1:03 PM >
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Alright thanks.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 34 on 2/24/2009 8:47 PM >
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well, they got back to me and this is gold! it shows all the mains as well as infalls/outfalls and catch basins for the whole area I requested! simply beautiful.

the only thing is it doesnt say anything about size, so it looks like I'm just going to have to hunt down outfalls until I find a big one!

heres a portion of the map:
KEY:
# = outfall/infall
) = catch basin
Yellow line = Drain
Grey line = streets
Green line = Highways
Red line = City boundary


[last edit 2/24/2009 8:50 PM by Trap - edited 2 times]

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 35 on 2/25/2009 3:32 AM >
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Wow, that is good quality stuff... Really easy to read. Almost makes finding drains too easy...

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 36 on 2/25/2009 4:24 AM >
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Posted by Lilardo
Wow, that is good quality stuff... Really easy to read. Almost makes finding drains too easy...


yeah, I had considered that. But a lot of the drains on the map I've checked out and theyre small, so the hunt is still on!

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 37 on 2/26/2009 1:56 AM >
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Yeah I use my maps more when I'm in the drains as a way to get to larger ones. All preference though.

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 38 on 2/26/2009 2:24 AM >
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Posted by Shutchatrap
But a lot of the drains on the map I've checked out and they're small


Drains are rivers. I suggest starting near known large ones and working backwards. _Generally_ a larger drain has more water coming out the end. So I walk around and find low places, then find water, then walk upstream. It works pretty well. Working from maps, probably start from surface creeks and work up. Good luck!

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Re: Reading Drain Maps
<Reply # 39 on 3/10/2009 10:23 PM >
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Posted by Shutchatrap


yeah, I had considered that. But a lot of the drains on the map I've checked out and theyre small, so the hunt is still on!


yeah the biggest i can see is 36". btw RCCP is Reinforced Concrete Cylinder Pipe, themoreyouknow.

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