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 |  | excess gear and military surplus.
< on 6/6/2009 5:52 AM >
|  | | | Okay, I've alot of UE types like to bring lots of gear, also, many seem to find surplus military equipment desirable.
first, the more you carry, the slower, louder, easier to spot, and hard to fit though small spaces is. carry only things you really need. This goes for shit like giant mags and tripods you know you wont use, ect. keep gear to a minimum.
2- alot of surplus, is made for specific things. say a canadian tac vest. It has four long, narrow pockets for AR-15 magazines. these pockets, so far, I've only found good to put a cell phone in, aside from 30rnd AR mags. then the 4 pockets for grenades. round pockets that aint too big, once again, not suited to much beyond their intended use. only the two big bottom pockets can be used for generic stuff.
the battle shirt- 2 pockets for obsolete fn fal magazines...useless.
the pants and boots I'll give ya, high quality and durable.
if you want load bearing vest for photo stuff, get one for photography....or at least use the older webbing systems, as you clipped various pockets on it, so you put useful ones on....think before buying surplus, most of it was made for specialized things, and isnt very useful to you.
also, it makes you look retarded. especially when your wearing it wrong.
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| |  | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 1 on 6/7/2009 3:15 AM >
| | | | Oh god, don't tell me u saw someone UE'n with a ruck and tac vest.  lolz
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| | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 2 on 6/7/2009 5:02 AM >
| | | | most of the time i take this baby with me to explore:
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| | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 3 on 6/7/2009 1:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by rz350
also, it makes you look retarded. especially when your wearing it wrong.
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...couldnt have put it better myself.
to be honest Im not really one to talk because I tend to bring a lot of gear with me, but I like to think that every single piece of kit has a specific purpose and I custom tailor what I bring to suit the needs of each trip.
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insanedArk
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 4 on 6/7/2009 1:56 PM >
| | | | A CF tacvest for UE? overkill much... the only military kit I ever use exploring would be the combat boots and gloves.
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rz350
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 5 on 6/7/2009 6:18 PM >
| | | | I've seen it a few times, and thus felt implored to write someting saying stop it.
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
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| |  | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 6 on 6/7/2009 7:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by rz350
I've seen it a few times, and thus felt implored to write someting saying stop it.
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I'll go into drains and abandoned buildings and stuff dressed nearly the same, unless I'm pretty sure I'll want something else. In that case I'll pack as small a bag as is practical.
2x Good shoes
1x Shorts with pockets
1+ Flashlight
1x Camera in small carry case
1x Tripod on shoelace strap
Optional:
2x Gloves
These things are all wearable or pocketable. If I bring a small case (briefcase, bag, lunch box) for my camera and tripod I look absolutely normal except for the goofy look on my face.
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heinrick
Location: Cascadia
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| | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 7 on 6/7/2009 11:29 PM >
| | | | My granddad worked in the supply room at Fort Knox during the 1950s and brought home a lot of gear that belonged to men who went AWOL. Dress uniforms, fatigues, overcoats, gloves, jumpsuits...
It's all great gear and is great for blending in or looking low profile/blue-collar. As long as you don't overdue it.
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rz350
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 8 on 6/8/2009 12:49 AM >
| | | | not over doing it is the key.
I even admitted alot of it is good stuff...just a few of the items are really specaized and make you look silly.
i.e tav vests, helmets, full out camo uniform, ect.
the boots are great, and ditto on the pants....the naval sweater and parkas are also good....I say naval as they are just black instead of retarded digital camo that makes you look like you need the sense beaten into you/is very obvious everywhere except in the woods.
also, if you got the $$, skip the '82 ruck and go with the small pack, way better piece of kit, comfort wise.
[last edit 6/8/2009 12:51 AM by rz350 - edited 2 times]
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 9 on 6/8/2009 1:34 PM >
| | | | I just use a backpack(plain black school type) to keep my hands free. Beyond that gloves, boots and lots of zippered plastic bags. I put everything in the bags so I don't have to dig through everything scattered in the bottom of my pack and nothing gets wet. As far as military surplus just pants, I love all the pockets. I have not really gone for all the rest, though some of it looks like it could be useful. I just don't want to run around looking like a GI Joe wanna be.
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insanedArk
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 10 on 6/8/2009 6:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by rz350
also, if you got the $$, skip the '82 ruck and go with the small pack, way better piece of kit, comfort wise.
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I can't think of anywhere on earth you could buy a CF small pack legally. Then again, the majority of us in this hobby are breaking the rules to begin with.
I think a bag from MEC or a similar place would be a good alternative. The small pack is rather cumbersome and with it being top loaded, organizing gear isn't exactly a simple task.
[last edit 6/8/2009 6:29 PM by insanedArk - edited 1 times]
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vmorgan
Location: Arizona
Gender: Male
| | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 11 on 6/8/2009 11:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by rz350
also, it makes you look retarded. especially when your wearing it wrong.
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I've seen it a few times, and thus felt implored to write someting saying stop it. |
Whether someone looks like a retard to another while exploring, IMHO, is the least of anyone's worries. Fact of the matter is that my Tactical vest has been the most indispensable piece of equipment I have in my collection. How you can not wear the vest properly is beyond me and, to an extent, I agree with you - you would have to be absolutely retarded not to be able to figure it out.
My vest is just a generic vest that I found at our local military surplus store. I have no clue whether it's actually used or not in the armed forces but that doesn't really matter. It was $60 bucks, had a bunch of MOLLE pouches already attached to it and it fit. It was a steal considering all of the other vests didn't come with any pouches and were more expensive. What MOLLE actually stands for is beyond me but I know that's the type of pouch that works with my vest.
It is an all purpose platform for anything and everything I could ever need while exploring. My vid camera fits in the large chest pocket, my batteries and cell phone fit in the mag (or whatever) pockets, my smaller mag-light belt attachment fits perfectly on the load bearing belt that came with the vest. My gloves fit into the larger side pockets. It came with a holster but I don't need anything like that so I replaced it with a little MOLLE camera pouch that I found at the same store... it zips up and carries car keys and stuff I can't lose.
Yes, I also have a backpack that I could bring along but the vest actually holds every piece of equipment that I bring along in a separate little compartment. Rather than having to dig around in a bag, that was initially on my back flopping around, I can grab anything I need without having to stop and pull a backpack off. It's a personal pref that I have - having everything held tightly on my torso and within arm's reach.
I don't think too much of someone going exploring decked out in BDU and full tac gear but if somehow it helps, more power to them. I agree that less is more in this instance but if someone feels compelled to wear something deemed excessive by some, I don't necessarily think we should chastise them for trying to be prepared.
Just my 2cp
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rz350
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 13 on 6/9/2009 3:38 AM >
| | | | I was referring to come of the really specific stuff that has pockets that hold very little well, except their engineered use.
but if you really wanna wear your tac vest, go for it. it just makes you look like a dolt
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hilite
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| | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 14 on 6/12/2009 3:55 AM >
| | | | It's a well known fact that Kit-Kats fit perfectly into mag pouches.
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rz350
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 15 on 6/12/2009 10:51 AM >
| | | | I find them slide in to far, coffee crisp is better.
ooh, you could stick mag pulls on your kitkats. that would be fucking OPERATOR.
but seriously, go with molle or a webbing set up, so you can attach pouches that fit your stuff, and change it up as requirements change.
I will however, fully endorse the cadpat combat gloves. they are fucking great, good protection, and I can still type on an EEEPC with them on.
| I don't think too much of someone going exploring decked out in BDU and full tac gear but if somehow it helps, more power to them. I agree that less is more in this instance but if someone feels compelled to wear something deemed excessive by some, I don't necessarily think we should chastise them for trying to be prepared. |
I aint meaning to be chastizing, I'm just trying to say that it might be the best choice of UE gear and to think it over before dropping the $$.
[last edit 6/12/2009 10:54 AM by rz350 - edited 1 times]
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vmorgan
Location: Arizona
Gender: Male
| | | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 16 on 6/13/2009 3:21 AM >
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| It's a well known fact that Kit-Kats fit perfectly into mag pouches. |
Bacon Breakfast Burritos from the local 24/7 mexican drive-thru fit perfectly into the pouch that fits my gloves. Don't get me wrong - I like Kit-kats but they dont have any bacon in them. ;)
| I aint meaning to be chastizing, I'm just trying to say that it might be the best choice of UE gear and to think it over before dropping the $$. |
I gotcha and I agree. After hitting a couple of drains and a missile silo I realized that it would be a worthwhile investment in the long run seeing as I want this to be a major hobby of mine. Having serious gear is very helpful in the right instances - one of those instances NOT being when you're in broad daylight and the cops want to have a word with you.
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rz350
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 17 on 6/20/2009 12:23 AM >
| | | | true, serious gear is always helpful. but make sure its good for your task before the $$ is out. i.e. if your photog, make sure the pockets hold the stuff you want, not the stuff the CAF thought it needed in 1998.
and I stand by the excess gear comment. if you don't use it, don't bring it.
the new boots, general purpose are fucking epic win btw. but I dont think you'll see em as surplus for a few years.
[last edit 6/20/2009 12:24 AM by rz350 - edited 1 times]
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alphie
| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 18 on 6/26/2009 5:36 AM >
| | | | I bought a sling camera backpack for only $12 at a local closeout store and it's definitely worked for me so far. It's small enough that it doesn't hamper me but large enough to carry the gear I need. I am known in my UE group as having anything on hand. Always carry a small first aid kit, extra flashlight, my camera with spare memory or battery and water. Even have an emergency whistle just in case I happen to get lost in some woods. Hehe
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Location: Herndon, VA
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| | Re: excess gear and military surplus.
<Reply # 19 on 7/13/2009 9:17 PM >
| | | | I have a 3M FR-M40 Surplus gas mask. it's a relatively comfortable mask, and (like many other mil-spec masks) the peripheral vision is quite good. also, i use surplus BDUs- they're nice and comfortable for UE. now, web gear i dont see any use for. its cumbersome and useless if youre not carrying your m4.
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