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Location DB > Scotland > Highlands > Cairngorm > Coire na Ciste Chairlift Base Station > A beautiful summer's day in the mountains > P1010005(2).jpg

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One of the last chairs still attached to the line.
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Posted by IIVQ 7/30/2005 9:24 PM | remove
  They allways tend to leave one or two still attached, I never know why...
Posted by lost 7/30/2005 9:50 PM | remove
  To keep the line down, maybe?
Posted by IIVQ 7/30/2005 10:45 PM | remove
  Hmmm, could be, but I don't think so.
Posted by lost 7/30/2005 11:04 PM | remove
  I know some of the workers up there, shall ask.
Posted by IIVQ 7/30/2005 11:06 PM | remove
  Cool. I've seen it on multiple things though, On some things they take them all off in summer (and one even every night in winter) and there they allways leave one or two on which are allmost down.
Posted by Slickis 8/1/2005 5:55 AM | remove
  I use to operate a chairlift, no need to leave chairs attached to manipulate the line. There's a big ass counterweight attached to one end that keeps the line tension.
Posted by IIVQ 8/7/2005 10:45 AM | remove
  I think then the standard lifts are exactly calculated so all chairs can be taken off in 1 workday by a crew of 5 - Except if one is a little late then they don't have time for the last 3 carriages anymore.
Posted by IIVQ 8/7/2005 10:48 AM | remove
  BTW... What brand was this chairlift? Poma? ITV? Doppelmayer? Montaz Moutino?
Posted by IIVQ 8/7/2005 11:59 AM | remove
  Damn I've learnt a lot about chairlifts since I posted this!
Posted by atomx 8/7/2005 12:28 PM | remove
  If you needed to take a trip up to the top would you want to walk? Hell no, leave one or two on, then if repairs are needed, then ride up, and walk down to where you need to go.
Posted by lost 8/7/2005 2:30 PM | remove
  The chairlift has the brand Kissling on the bottom wheel body, but I think they just made the gears. Nothing else to elaborate on the make of the chairlift though... and atomx, you're probably correct, but the chairlift is most definitely out of commission now and unmaintained.
Posted by Slickis 8/7/2005 6:16 PM | remove
  Just for facts, shits and giggles the wheels at each end are called "bull wheels". I remember we got our asses seriously chewed off if we let somone ride around the bull wheel and I never understood that as there is almost 0 chance a derailment we happen because of this.
Posted by Slickis 8/7/2005 6:16 PM | remove
  we= would oops
Posted by lost 8/7/2005 8:47 PM | remove
  I wanna ride!
Posted by IIVQ 8/19/2005 11:47 AM | remove
  Yes there is. The bull wheel can handle the force of the cable pulling the whole wheel in the direction of the cable (horizontal) but can't really stand the weight of a chair + passengers. The cable will slip off, which will require significant engeneering works to get it back on again (worse than just having a cable slip off a vertical wheel, where you can handle it with a normal winch).

It's one of the weaker points of (non-detatchable) chairlifts.
Posted by Slickis 8/22/2005 4:29 AM | remove
  I remember our wheels having a large upper and lower lip that would virtually eliminate a derailment in this area. We did however have derailments on towers and I remember all too well helping evac passengers off the damn thing for many hours in the piss pouring rain. Terrible.
Another shitty thing that happened was dumbasses bouncing the chairs would sometimes break off an emergency limit switch that is supposed to break when the cable hits it if it derails. We had a manual override key in the bottom station for this occurance. I also heard of a bad derailment that occured before I worked there that when the line came away from the tower, the counterweight pulled taught and threw people like rag dolls. I did see a helo crash here though. I was at the midpoint station and heard an unhealty wirring sound followed by tearing metal, breaking trees and such about 70 yards away in the woods. The pilot was dead from a tree through the canopy but the lady passenger was ok. The FAA said it was clutch failure. I wonder if they were puzzled by me taking the altimeter out of the busted up dash? It must be rare that I have witnessed 3 helo crashes.
OK i'm done being long winded.
Posted by IIVQ 8/25/2005 9:38 PM | remove
  It's ok, cool story!
Posted by ossian 8/21/2006 7:53 PM | remove
  The chairlift is a GMD Mueller lift and was seriously over engineered, though the company no longer exists (but, contrary to what has been said, you can still source spare parts, or use parts from modern lifts). The reason why there are still about 5 chairs at each end of the line is because the chairlift still works, and is still used!! Only by the staff though, but it still works and there is nothing wrong with it. They don't have the full line full of chairs to prevent members of the public jumping on and potentially being left stranded mid-line. The chairlift has, incidentally, been in regular use recently to aid in process of getting new snowfencing up the hill. It's set to be demolished probably next summer, since time is fast running out before the coming winter.
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