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oddspot
Location: Small Town Alberta Gender: Male Total Likes: 1 like
| | | Safety Inspection < on 1/23/2010 10:41 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | So I've just received our license to do out of province safety inspections (anything being brought into Alberta from outside province or country) and completed our first inspection. Dealers here charge about $225 for the inspection which I undercut a bit to scoop some business, thinking that seemed like a lot! Talk about a detailed manual... holy fuck! Inspections in Alberta go as far as inspecting the etching on all glass, stampings on bulbs, measurements on friction components... WOW! having come from Ontario....this is automotive insanity. In Ontario if it has lights, glass, no body holes, brakes, tires, solid suspension and seatbelts... (give or take a few extra items) sign, date, number and you're rolling! here you even have to go to the transport office FIRST to obtain a request form to have the inspection done! madness I say
| Even A Genius Has Questions!?! I do things because I choose to, not because I have to. My Life, My Rules - No Exceptions! |
| steponmebbbboom
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| | | Re: Safety Inspection < Reply # 13 on 1/24/2010 7:44 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by oddspot
I'm not sure safety should ever be sacrificed on account of money!! the windshield serves a very large purpose as part of structural integrity of the body of the vehicle. The standards even go as far as inspection on the side windows even on extended cab pick ups. it's deep. the bulb rating is to ensure they are MOT/DOT approved and not the "for offroad use only" cheap chinese crap that have painted bulb glass. There is no mention of wattage rating. I spoke at length with the gentleman who is in charge of the entire inspection process for the Government. My techs were freaking out a bit when they got the new manual. He indicated to me that his counterpart in Ontario is looking to increase the requirements for Safety Inspections in Ontario towards those here in the wild west.
| not sure what side of the fence you stand on now, then... yes, structural windshields are important (SRS systems being one factor) i would put the onus on the installer to ensure the replacement windshield is up to spec, not the owner of the vehicle... just as an improper brake repair should fall back on the shop that did the work not the owner of the vehicle who is not qualified to determine whether the mechanic did their job properly that's what the 310S Class A licensing process is for, after all... and painted bulb glass is only one consideration... the bulb must also be the correct wattage not just so they dont melt the lens and housing but also not to blind or confuse other motorists... again, should that be the responsibility of the shop doing the safety inspection? or the one who did the repair in the first place? i dunno, you tell me? i didnt start this thread... again, id like to see numbers indicating that alberta's traffic fatalities are significantly lower than ontario's just because all owners have to pay $250 so a tech can take their brake bulbs out and make sure theyre not chinese...
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| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1902 likes
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | | Re: Safety Inspection < Reply # 14 on 1/24/2010 8:43 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Agent Skelly
I disagree.
| i don't. New York state makes a fucking mint of inspections... Vermont safety inspections are even more expensive and intrusive. Skelly, in many ways you are blessed with an ignorance that most people have. And I am NOT calling you an ignorant man, because you and the other esteemed members of this board are FAR from ignorant. What I mean by that term is you're like so many other people in that you trust others with your car implicitly... you trust them to tell you what's wrong and trust them to correct it. I'm sorry, but in this day and age, so many mechanics out there are nothing more than crooked bastards out to make a profit at the expense of the inexperienced or unknowing. You know enough to get you by, you know more than the average minivan owner, but there are still gaps in your automotive knowledge (which is fine, please.. i'm not making you out to be an idiot)... these mechanics can smell that inexperience like sharks smelling blood... all a safety inspection does is open the door for them to fuck someone... LEGALLY! that's my opinion. In some ways, especially here in the snowy northern wastes, I can see some level of inspection IS necessary just because the cars deteriorate so fast here. Brake lines rot, fuel lines rot, subframes and bodies rot at an accelerated pace... there does need to be an inspection process, but not at $21. i see both sides of this debate, but I have to side with jeepdave on this one.
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| oddspot
Location: Small Town Alberta Gender: Male Total Likes: 1 like
| | | Re: Safety Inspection < Reply # 15 on 1/24/2010 9:10 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | a) Profit is not a dirty word (nor is income generation) b) I've been in business, and the automotive repair and parts business long enough to know one thing and one thing for absolute certain! Crooked technicians & crooked shops can not and do not survive for any extended period of time. ESPECIALLY in the auto repair industry which is a grudge purchase for consumers to begin with. There is no way that Canadian Tire, Midas, Meineke, Auto Zone etc.... have been as big and as successful as they/we are for as long as we have by being generally shitty at what we do. NO WAY! Yes there will be bad experiences, incorrect parts, dirty tactics, shady calls..... but it's surely not an overall way of doing business.
Governments design and implement the inspection process, regardless of what state or province. our job simply is to execute them as per their mandates. If I have an opportunity to make money legitimately as a result of such a program.... (like Ontario's emissions programs, safety inspections or what is by far my most profitable for time invested RIV Federal Inspections.... hell go as far as hunting and fishing licenses..... damn right i'm going to take every opportunity to make as much money as I can doing so.
Having said that..... I still prefer the Ontario safety inspection to this Alberta one both as a consumer and a provider!
| Even A Genius Has Questions!?! I do things because I choose to, not because I have to. My Life, My Rules - No Exceptions! |
| Nismo
Location: Montreal. Lachine Gender: Male Total Likes: 12 likes
It's so vewy droi here
| | | | | | Re: Safety Inspection < Reply # 17 on 1/24/2010 10:03 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Samurai
i don't. New York state makes a fucking mint of inspections... Vermont safety inspections are even more expensive and intrusive. Skelly, in many ways you are blessed with an ignorance that most people have. And I am NOT calling you an ignorant man, because you and the other esteemed members of this board are FAR from ignorant. What I mean by that term is you're like so many other people in that you trust others with your car implicitly... you trust them to tell you what's wrong and trust them to correct it. I'm sorry, but in this day and age, so many mechanics out there are nothing more than crooked bastards out to make a profit at the expense of the inexperienced or unknowing. You know enough to get you by, you know more than the average minivan owner, but there are still gaps in your automotive knowledge (which is fine, please.. i'm not making you out to be an idiot)... these mechanics can smell that inexperience like sharks smelling blood... all a safety inspection does is open the door for them to fuck someone... LEGALLY! that's my opinion. In some ways, especially here in the snowy northern wastes, I can see some level of inspection IS necessary just because the cars deteriorate so fast here. Brake lines rot, fuel lines rot, subframes and bodies rot at an accelerated pace... there does need to be an inspection process, but not at $21. i see both sides of this debate, but I have to side with jeepdave on this one.
| i agree with samurai The world has ended
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