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bandi Lippy Mechanic Bastard
Location: Trent Hills, ON Gender: Male Total Likes: 734 likes
A liminal mind is all I've ever known.
| | | | Re: I'm PISSED < Reply # 13 on 3/14/2007 11:10 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Oh God... I'd better replace my car immediately, then! It burns oil! The only emission control my car has on it is a catalytic converter... which is hollow, just in case they pull me over and check... and it, my friend, is on the road. Other things CAN go wrong to make a well maintained car fail- O2 sensors, EGR valves, faulty temp sensors keeping the engine in "cold start" mode, leaking injectos (whether they've been cleaned or not). There are hundreds of variables on today's cars that can affect it, not just keeping it maintained. As for the 2 speed idle test for AWD cars... I've seen a few Subarus flunk that pretty badly. Also... air filter every 10k? Are you nuts? I'd be putting an air filter in my car every 2 weeks, and the stock one is $44) (Actually... I have a reuseable cone filter.)
It's still a fucking scam.
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| Sinister Crayon
Location: Colorado Gender: Male Total Likes: 3 likes
| | | Re: I'm PISSED < Reply # 14 on 3/15/2007 1:01 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by bandi Oh God... I'd better replace my car immediately, then! It burns oil! The only emission control my car has on it is a catalytic converter... which is hollow, just in case they pull me over and check... and it, my friend, is on the road. Other things CAN go wrong to make a well maintained car fail- O2 sensors, EGR valves, faulty temp sensors keeping the engine in "cold start" mode, leaking injectos (whether they've been cleaned or not). There are hundreds of variables on today's cars that can affect it, not just keeping it maintained. As for the 2 speed idle test for AWD cars... I've seen a few Subarus flunk that pretty badly. Also... air filter every 10k? Are you nuts? I'd be putting an air filter in my car every 2 weeks, and the stock one is $44) (Actually... I have a reuseable cone filter.)
It's still a fucking scam.
| Yeah, emissions tests are a joke. We actually had to swap engines on a 76 Gran Torino just to pass. Then once the car got home, put the other engine back in. Shame we got rid of it, twould have been a good car to restore.
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| Nvr2loud Man with the golden shoes
Location: Huntsville, Ontario Gender: Male Total Likes: 7 likes
| | | Re: I'm PISSED < Reply # 15 on 3/15/2007 1:03 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by bandi Oh God... I'd better replace my car immediately, then! It burns oil! The only emission control my car has on it is a catalytic converter... which is hollow, just in case they pull me over and check... and it, my friend, is on the road.
| You should fix the engine leaks causing the car to burn oil, and yes your car shouldn't be on the road. You have modified it to create more power then it was designed or tested at.... your car does not belong on the road. I highly doubt that you drive 10,000 km every 2 weeks or you would be driving 260,000 km per year. I drive 50,000 km per year / about 1000 km per week. I clean my air filter and re-oil it every 10,000 km and it only costs a few dollars a year for the oil (the kit actually lasts more then a year anyway) If it is too expensive to properly maintain your vehicle then you can't afford that vehicle. Why should anyone be allowed to pollute the air more then their neighbours because they can't 'afford' to fix their car. I fully ackknowledge that there are hundreds of items on a car that may cause the failure of an emission test, however basic maintenance is the first defense of an engine. Running clean oil, unobstructed air flow, solid / properly installed exhaust systems, clean injectors, ect. reduce the wear and tear on an engine and therefore reduce the severity of other engine problems.
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| bandi Lippy Mechanic Bastard
Location: Trent Hills, ON Gender: Male Total Likes: 734 likes
A liminal mind is all I've ever known.
| | | | Re: I'm PISSED < Reply # 16 on 3/17/2007 12:42 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Yes, I had a brain malfunction when I said 10,000 km every 2 weeks... still, I do about 10,000 km a month, sometimes more. I bought my car just over a year ago, and have put 130,000 km on it in that time. As for the oil burning... my car has perforated valve guides, this allows oil to lubricate the upper cylinder, so some oil burning is expected. I had a BMW M car with the same thing. Also... just for the record of how unreliable the driveclean system is... I had my car e-tested yesterday, and it passed. When I used to do e-testing, cars would fail, you'd run them again an hour later, they'd pass. The machines are a complete joke.
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| Nvr2loud Man with the golden shoes
Location: Huntsville, Ontario Gender: Male Total Likes: 7 likes
| | | Re: I'm PISSED < Reply # 19 on 3/27/2007 1:31 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by bandi As for the oil burning... my car has perforated valve guides, this allows oil to lubricate the upper cylinder, so some oil burning is expected. I had a BMW M car with the same thing. Also... just for the record of how unreliable the driveclean system is... I had my car e-tested yesterday, and it passed. When I used to do e-testing, cars would fail, you'd run them again an hour later, they'd pass. The machines are a complete joke.
| If the car was designed to burn some oil, the E-Test computer is aware of the acceptable range for that vehicle's engine. Not all tests between different vehicles are identical. The ranges vary depending on model year, engine size, brand, ect. The test is only a comparison of YOUR Vehicle to that of other identical vehicles. Your car was in the acceptable range if it passed, what's the problem? I test emissions on natural gas, propane, and fuel-oil fired industrial burners, the emissions change all the time due to outside temperature, humidity, wind speed, rain, ect. If you test a car and it fails, an hour later the conditions may be right for it to pass. The E-test is a waste of money, but it also indicated to the owner of the vehicle that there may be a major problem. Think of it as having blood work done, it may highlight some concerns.
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