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Posted by splumer
I'd say that nature and fertility are closely linked. Yes, Wicca might not be strictly a nature religion, but I wouldn't say it is wrong to call it one. Fertility is a better description of it, though, I agree. What do you think of Ray Buckland's books?
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Buckland's... interesting. I'm not entirely sure that I'd apply the term "Wicca" to his Seax tradition, like he does, but he WAS initiated and did have access to the mysteries. I won't deny his right to call it Wicca, it just seems strange that the two have so little in common. His writings on Wicca in general, though, are pretty cool. I'm pretty much a purist, so I tend to look upon any non-initiate writing on Wicca as most likely a Fluffy, and don't believe everything even from the initiates.
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Posted by splumer
I'd say that nature and fertility are closely linked. Yes, Wicca might not be strictly a nature religion, but I wouldn't say it is wrong to call it one. Fertility is a better description of it, though, I agree. What do you think of Ray Buckland's books?
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Look up stuff on Paganism in general. Wicca has only been around for a few decades and took everything from pagan religions. (Much like christianity, but that's a whole other story...) I quite like Dion Fortune's work, though it's slightly more leaned toward ceremonial. I used to be into wicca when I was like 13, but got bored with it. I found the deeper you search into the occult, the more fascinating it gets. You won't find the good stuff at Barnes & Noble. Well, not very often.
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Posted by Oryx
Look up stuff on Paganism in general. Wicca has only been around for a few decades and took everything from pagan religions. (Much like christianity, but that's a whole other story...) I quite like Dion Fortune's work, though it's slightly more leaned toward ceremonial. I used to be into wicca when I was like 13, but got bored with it. I found the deeper you search into the occult, the more fascinating it gets. You won't find the good stuff at Barnes & Noble. Well, not very often.
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I find a lot of occult stuff really silly. Well, mostly the more recent stuff. Aleister Croweley - with the exception of works on Wicca - is about as modern as I get. I actually wrote an adventure for the role-playing game Call of Cthulhu based on the 1804 occult book The Magus.
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Posted by splumer
I find a lot of occult stuff really silly. Well, mostly the more recent stuff. Aleister Croweley - with the exception of works on Wicca - is about as modern as I get. I actually wrote an adventure for the role-playing game Call of Cthulhu based on the 1804 occult book The Magus.
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99% of the recent stuff is crap. The only reason that 1% isn't is because sometimes you can find something decent in the bibliography. Look into Blavatsky.
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Posted by splumer
I find a lot of occult stuff really silly. Well, mostly the more recent stuff. Aleister Croweley - with the exception of works on Wicca - is about as modern as I get. I actually wrote an adventure for the role-playing game Call of Cthulhu based on the 1804 occult book The Magus.
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DUDE! And Aleister Crowley is not silly? Have your read his poetry? HAVE YOU READ HIS POETRY!? He's worse than Tolkien. The thing about the "occult" is that it is derivative. Everything written today, has already been written by someone else thousands of years earlier. Even AC and Blavatsky are derivative.
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Posted by dirt
DUDE! And Aleister Crowley is not silly? Have your read his poetry? HAVE YOU READ HIS POETRY!? He's worse than Tolkien. The thing about the "occult" is that it is derivative. Everything written today, has already been written by someone else thousands of years earlier. Even AC and Blavatsky are derivative.
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But it's really really epic-cool when Ronnie James Dio dresses like an elf and growls about Satan.
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Posted by KublaKhan
But it's really really epic-cool when Ronnie James Dio dresses like an elf and growls about Satan.
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Wow, And I thought I was the king of derail.
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Posted by dirt
Wow, And I thought I was the king of derail.
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No you're the king of pissing people off in the politics board
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Posted by KublaKhan
But it's really really epic-cool when Ronnie James Dio dresses like an elf and growls about Satan.
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WHEN THERE'S LIGHTNINGGGGGG YOU KNOW IT ALWAYS BRINGS ME DOWNNNN! CAUSE IT'S FREE AND I SEE THAT IT'S ME..... WHO'S LOST AND NEVER FOUNDDDDDD! AAAAAHHHHHHH!
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Posted by Oryx
No you're the king of pissing people off in the politics board
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But I quit the politics board a while ago. Too much of a conservative circle jerk.
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Posted by dirt
But I quit the politics board a while ago. Too much of a conservative circle jerk.
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Funny that the religion board is not.
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Posted by earthworm Funny that the religion board is not.
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Because as mush as conservatives love to quote the bible, they use it more as a justification for their actions than for any spiritual reasoning.
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Raised Catholic, now an atheist.
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Posted by Planar Raised Catholic, now an atheist.
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Who are you?
Think really hard on it.
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raised Roman Catholic. sorry everybody, I just blew up a bible. Mortars are fun.
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Posted by Oryx You won't find the good stuff at Barnes & Noble. Well, not very often.
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motherfucking barnes & noble in my hometown ELIMINATED the psychology section!!! ...but they have four rows of "christian inspiration" and bibles. What the fuck?! I am crushed by this
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Posted by jukebox fuckup
motherfucking barnes & noble in my hometown ELIMINATED the psychology section!!! ...but they have four rows of "christian inspiration" and bibles. What the fuck?! I am crushed by this
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!!!??? The barnes & noble that I used to frequent now has a stalker that is there every day. I can't even GO now
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Posted by dirt
Who are you?
Think really hard on it.
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What do you mean dirt?
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Raised in a analytical environment to be what ever I wanted to be. Funny, I turned out Atheist.
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I was raised in a mixed Roman Catholic / agnostic atmosphere, but for the last 10 years, I've been a practicioner of Asatru, a Northern European religion that worships the Scandinavian / Germanic pantheon of gods and goddesses (Odin, Thor, Freya, etc), our ancestors, and the various land wights and spirits. Yep, I'm a heathen.
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