my 97 grand prix is now sitting in the driveway awaiting its date with the tow truck. This morning i found her sitting in a pile of antifreeze. after investigation i found its the back head gasket. Age, combined with multiple other minor issues have come together and helped me make my descision to retire her. A little history, when my dad passed in 07 i inherited this car, he died at the wheel of this car so its got a certain sentimental attachment. Anyways, on to shop for a new 3.8

Always hard to let a car go when memories are attached.

very sad. Sorry, Expos.
i think it's been that kind of day.

the biggest bitch is she runs great, what i think happens is it runs great, and according to the guages it didnt run hot, my feeling is, back in 98 when my aunt had the car (my father bought my aunts lease return) the dealer tossed stop leak in the engine cus it had a leak. Anyways, i think it blocked a passage in the head, causing just the head to over heat. The 3.8 is a hard engine to hurt but...

but ive come to the descision to not fix because of all the 'little' problems adding up. no ac, no heater (massive vaccuum leak under the dash), annoying "incorrect purge flow" code all the time, cataracts on the headlights, rotten passenger side rocker panel, loose in the transmission amoungst other things.

ill hold on to it till i got a replacement for her. since she has brand new shocks and springs. If i get a pre 04 one they are comming off lol. and i sure as hell am not sending it to the retirement yard with new tires either!

I would run her till she wouldn't run no more. I'm bad about getting attached to metal objects.

Posted by jeepdave I would run her till she wouldn't run no more. I'm bad about getting attached to metal objects.

i still cry when I see what's left of my Monte Carlo.

Posted by jeepdave I would run her till she wouldn't run no more. I'm bad about getting attached to metal objects.

well like i said she still runs well but with no heater she isnt much good as a winter beater. im gonna pull the passenger doors, they came off an 03 car from georgia. (my dad was t-boned and the passenger side was pushed in 2 feet)

now the big question, ive always been a pontiac guy, and i want a 3.8. should i go with old arrowhead, bowtie or maybe even the 3 sheilds of buick

why is this even a question?

sam, come on, grand prix vs impala is like sleemans vs genesee

I think you need a nice car with a Mopar engine

I like the 3.8 II a lot. I used to have a Lesabre and my neighbor just got a Buick Century with the 3.8 I for $350.

Posted by Agent Skelly I think you need a nice car with a Mopar engine

take your hemi crap and get the hell off our land... get. the. hell. off. our. LAND!

What about a nice Kia?

Posted by yokes What about a nice Kia?

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i've killed men for less, yokes, FOR LESS!

if you MUST get a Kia, i mean if absolutely must have to get a Kia, the Forte Koup looks ok.

Don't worry... I couldn't say it with a straight face. I'm sure couldn't either when you recommended a Chevyrolet.

Posted by yokes Don't worry... I couldn't say it with a straight face. I'm sure couldn't either when you recommended a Chevyrolet.

oh ho... now it's on, you damned Canadian.

Posted by Samurai take your hemi crap and get the hell off our land... get. the. hell. off. our. LAND!

Hell no. I'm sending Lee Iacocca and zombie Ricardo Montalban after you! AND KILL YOU AND TURN YOU INTO RICH CORINTHIAN LEATHER!

well bob seger is gonna fight them off like a rock

i test drove an 00 GT today, surprised to see it less equiped than my SE. car was too clean and being sold from a nameless office in the back of an industrial park. lol i ran