going to try out a Honda CR-Z this weekend.
if i can get out of my Cobalt, will probably buy

stfu

really not a fan of it, i just find it so awkward looking
and its a hybrid




I assume this

Posted by Samurai going to try out a Honda CR-Z this weekend. if i can get out of my Cobalt, will probably buy stfu

Honestly, they are one of the few Hybrids that I would even consider. They atleast look decent and are pretty quick for what they are. Long live the CR-(X)Z.

Oh my.

Really? The 0-60 is like 9"

Not gonna outrun any crown vics with that.

Why are you considering ousting the Cobalt?

Issue with a check engine light I think.

He'll tell the story tomorrow probably.

wow, the end of the world must be imminent, not only is samurai looking at somthing without a bowtie, but a japanese car, and not only a japanese car its a hybrid. what next...

If I could live with 2 seats, I'd have one in the driveway now instead of the Saturn.

Posted by Samurai going to try out a Honda CR-Z this weekend. if i can get out of my Cobalt, will probably buy stfu

Benedict Arnold

I suppose you want the why... i want something different. i've had nothing but Chevrolets since 1996.
on top of that, yesterday morning, i got in my Cobalt, started the engine and was greeted a CHECK ENGINE light and the dreaded "ENG PWR REDUCED" message in the DIC. As I had 9000 errands to do before i had to go into work (early on top of that), i shut it off, climbed into the shaky trailer park racer and set off. I came home, called the dealership and headed there (13 miles over the mountain). ENG PWR REDUCED doesn't quite cover it! The PCM basically goes into limp mode (and I do mean flaccid) and cuts out the supercharger, goes to terribly conservative fuel and ignition map which makes you want to tear your hair out. So I get there, throw the Tech 2 on it and learn that what the issue is...

there are two throttle position sensors on the engine. this throttle set-up is drive-by-wire, no mechanical linkage between pedal and throttle. So anyways, as the engine runs, the two sensors are constantly checking voltages. Well, one of them has checked out for lunch under operation. Now, you'd think that the simple solution would be to just change them out and be done with it. No no no... for warranty purposes, the tech must determine WHAT CAUSED THE FAILURE. If it's something unrelated to the engine, fuck you pay me... And the soonest that it can be officially shopified is tuesday the 26th so now I have a very expensive, pretty blue lawn ornament for 10 days.

Now, the punchline to this is basically I probably caused all this chaos... day before yesterday, I gave the Cobalt the official it's spring! detailing and one of the things I like to do is open up the hood, put a big garbage bag over the engine and hose out the engine room, get all the dirt and salt out from the under the hood, inner fenders, subframe, the nooks and crannies... i'm thinking the bag not big enough or the hose spray not aimed enough or stray soap off the sponge...

But back to the CR-Z... it's small, manual shift and good on gas. the thing I DON'T like is it's a hybrid. I was wishing that Honda would've made a straight gas version of this car. Oh, for $6500, they even have a Mugen package for it.
GM doesn't make a small coupe anymore.
Ford doesn't offer the Fiesta in a coupe
the Focus would only appeal to me in a Euro-spec RS trim (which will never make it here I'm sure) and the only other Japanese manufacturer I looked at was Subaru, but they too don't make a coupe.

So there you have it.

Not many companies make small coupes anymore. There's the Scion TC, but that thing is horrible. I'd rather be fucked by a goat than drive a TC. Chryco doesn't have one, save for the Fiat, which I say is too small for you. Same for the Mini. Mazda has the NC Miata and RX8, but those might be stupid crazy on insurance. Kia has the Forte Koup, and I think it's available with a turbo and a 6 speed these days. Hyundai has the Genesis Coupe, which I really like, but now we're climbing way up the price ladder.

For a sport compact, the only thing left on the market now is the CRZ.

Now, if you're looking for a 5 door, I'd go with a Mazdaspeed3. Same price as the CRZ and will walk all over the SC Cobalt, no offense intended. Damn fast cars for $23,000.

How about a Chrysler 200?

Posted by Agent Skelly How about a Chrysler 200?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

From what I could tell in the research I did for Sam, it seemed like a loose wire or dirty connection that's causing this with the car. Most likely loose wire. Something really stupid.

If it's really bad, it's a throttle assembly failure, but I don't believe that's the case. If the voltages are all screwed up, it's most likely a bad sensor or loose wire/connection, as some people report a loose or faulty connection causing the sensors around the throttle assembly to start throwing high or low voltage check engine codes.

We ran into that on a few Cobalts and PT Wannabes (HHRs), and basically ended up replacing the entire engine management harness. I recall actually finding the bad wire in the harness on an HHR between the gas pedal and the ECU, and just replaced that and never saw the car back for the problem. All in all it's a pain in the ass to diagnose and repair.

Posted by bandi We ran into that on a few Cobalts and PT Wannabes (HHRs), and basically ended up replacing the entire engine management harness. I recall actually finding the bad wire in the harness on an HHR between the gas pedal and the ECU, and just replaced that and never saw the car back for the problem. All in all it's a pain in the ass to diagnose and repair.

Yeah. In the research, it was usually people that did something recently to their vehicles. One guy said he'd just put a nitrous pack in and pulled a little too hard on a wire that went into a sensor and that caused the whole problem.

Yay, fragile Delta platform harnesses. Should I just get rid of the Astra now while it's still working?

Posted by wannabeotaku Yay, fragile Delta platform harnesses. Should I just get rid of the Astra now while it's still working?

your harness is different than my harness and I doubt you spray water under your hood.

I detail the engine once or twice a year. While I know the harness is different, I have been having issues with the electronics of that car.