Posted by splumer Do you have a source for your IQ assertions? One that doesn't come your KKK buddies? Here are my sources:

Why are we doing this? He is clearly not willing or able to have a discussion based on anything other than hatred and trolling.

in before loxorz

No need for a lock yet, but I suspect that if it has to happen, I know who will be the cause.

So, the pope never said condoms cause AIDS. Just more atheist lies. He said the problem is not unprotected sex, but casual sex especially in areas where more people have AIDS than anywhere else in the world. Throwing condoms (which do not have a 100% effectiveness rate) at the problem is no solution. And, of course, he's correct. The answer to the problem in Africa isn't to pretend to have "safe sex" with people who have AIDS, the answer is to STOP having sex with people who have AIDS in the first place.

Posted by MrGreenJeans So, the pope never said condoms cause AIDS. Just more atheist lies. He said the problem is not unprotected sex, but casual sex especially in areas where more people have AIDS than anywhere else in the world. Throwing condoms (which do not have a 100% effectiveness rate) at the problem is no solution. And, of course, he's correct. The answer to the problem in Africa isn't to pretend to have "safe sex" with people who have AIDS, the answer is to STOP having sex with people who have AIDS in the first place.

Why do I keep responding?

Nothing has a 100 percent effectiveness rate, including abstinence, when your blood supply is 80 percent contaminated. And how does one know one's partner has AIDS? I've met a few people with it, and they looked perfectly healthy.

The pope is hardly one to be lecturing about morality.

Posted by MrGreenJeans The good news is the likelihood of suicide is higher amongst queers and dykes than among heterosexuals. Sam, If you're going to go that route please don't make a whiny youtube video, those are getting old.

The reason that homosexuals are statistically more likely to commit suicide (which, by the way is something you oughta consider) is because of the shame and guilt which are instilled by most "christian" fundamentalist groups. And that only goes for homosexuals who are still in the "closet", too afraid to come out, mostly because of their "christian" families, and other bigots.

Posted by splumer Why do I keep responding? Nothing has a 100 percent effectiveness rate, including abstinence, when your blood supply is 80 percent contaminated. And how does one know one's partner has AIDS? I've met a few people with it, and they looked perfectly healthy. The pope is hardly one to be lecturing about morality.

So you're saying that complete abstinence will still get you AIDS?! Is it in the air now? Maybe it's in the water supply ... anyone who is gay and/or supports a gay lifestyle is hardly one to be lecturing about morality.

@TC sure, blame "Christians" some more. Can't think of any other excuse? When some pansy bites the bullet over their own shame and mental illness it's easy to blame someone else.

Posted by MrGreenJeans So you're saying that complete abstinence will still get you AIDS?! Is it in the air now? Maybe it's in the water supply ... anyone who is gay and/or supports a gay lifestyle is hardly one to be lecturing about morality.

Uh, perhaps a blood transfusion, dumb ass? A dirty needle used in a vaccination? A racist, sexist homophobe is hardly one to be lecturing on morality either.

Posted by MrGreenJeans anyone who is gay and/or supports a gay lifestyle is hardly one to be lecturing about morality.

Unsupportable statement is unsupportable.

christians and morality... lol

This is what happens when a gay man tries to smother who he is under Christianity

Posted by splumer Uh, perhaps a blood transfusion, dumb ass? A dirty needle used in a vaccination? A racist, sexist homophobe is hardly one to be lecturing on morality either.

This is 2012, not 1990, we screen our blood supply these days and use clean needles for vaccines. I do suppose the morals of an alley cat are still a type of morals

Posted by MrGreenJeans This is 2012, not 1990, we screen our blood supply these days and use clean needles for vaccines. I do suppose the morals of an alley cat are still a type of morals

In the US, we do. In Uganda, the clinic where the doc I did the video conference for worked has ONE needle for transfusions. Screen the blood supply? With what? Witch doctors? The conditions under which a lot of doctors have to work is appalling. This doc said he bought two huge duffel bags and crammed them full of supplies he bought himself to take to the clinic. They don't even have enough Band-aids to stick on people after they get shots. They re-use tongue depressors. They wash and re-use gauze. Most of us have more medical supplies in our bathrooms than this clinic usually has.

Posted by splumer In the US, we do. In Uganda, the clinic where the doc I did the video conference for worked has ONE needle for transfusions. Screen the blood supply? With what? Witch doctors? The conditions under which a lot of doctors have to work is appalling. This doc said he bought two huge duffel bags and crammed them full of supplies he bought himself to take to the clinic. They don't even have enough Band-aids to stick on people after they get shots. They re-use tongue depressors. They wash and re-use gauze. Most of us have more medical supplies in our bathrooms than this clinic usually has.

Sounds like just the kind of place that needs a drastic population reduction, perhaps AIDS is simply evolution - survival of the fittest. I wonder what percentage of the population actually needs a blood transfusion compared with the number of AIDS infected people there are. If I was somewhere with an 80% AIDS rate and knew the vaccination for some disease I *might* get was going to give me AIDS (since they only have one needle) I'd take my chances without the vaccine.

Actual homosexuality is not found in any species, or else they would all be extinct. The vast majority of the "homosexual" animals the queer lobbyists tell you about are simply immature juveniles or animals so stupid they will mount anything near them during breeding season. Homophobia is also a misnomer, as the vast majority of people who dislike queers have no fear of them at all. The queers just like using the word to make themselves feel empowered against the straight world. Your little graphic might make your gay friends feel better about themselves but it's a blatant falsehood.

I put on my robe and internet warrior helmet.

Even if it were true, the fact that people who dislike queers are not afraid of them does not make the term homophobia a misnomer. Homophobia means fear of homosexuals or homosexuality. A misnomer is something which is inaptly named. For example, the funny bone. Because it's not a bone, but a nerve. I can think of no more proper name for the fear of homosexuality than homophobia.

Now the fact that homophobia is commonly used to explain why people have a problem with homosexuality is a different matter. There could be other reasons why people have a problem with homosexuality. What is your reason?

I am also curious about what you mean by "actual homosexuality." I am going to assume that what people usually call homosexuality isn't "actual homosexuality" in the way you mean it. Otherwise, of course, humans would be extinct right? You said it yourself: "Actual homosexuality is not found in any species, or else they would all be extinct." I'm really trying to understand what you might mean by it. I think it must be something like this: If homosexuality were a real issue not something made up by deviants and weak-willed sinners, heterosexual sex would not occur and there wouldn't be any offspring.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

But that doesn't make sense either. It's a bit of an over-simplification isn't it? Why can't a portion of the population be homosexual and not have offspring, and the rest of the population be heterosexual and reproduce. Then the species wouldn't go extinct. So maybe "actual homosexuality" means "the whole species is exclusively gay."

Let me think about that for a minute. Maybe what you're saying is, "If monkeys were actually gay, there'd be no baby monkeys."

But the thing is, its only -some- monkeys. Just like it's only -some- humans. And now I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe this is where the problem lies, for you. Maybe it is difficult for you to understand that not everyone is the same. A similar thing sometimes happens when people encounter other cultures and other races. They are DIFFERENT and suddenly we can't predict what they'll do by imagining what we'd do in their place. I believe that's the root of the homophobia argument. People are afraid of what is different because they do not understand it, and aren't comfortable with the unpredictability that entails.

The bottom line here is this. You need to be clearer in how you express your point of view. Both saying that the term homophobia is a misnomer and that if actual homophobia existed then species would be extinct are unclear uses of language, and paradoxical. You are sentences are vague and don't make sense. That indicates that your thoughts, also, are probably vague and don't make sense.

Take a long hard look at your perspectives. Not just how you feel about them, but WHY. Based on everything you've said, I'm going to say you have no clear, logical reasons for believing what you do. You just do.

That's a dangerous way to live, my friend, because you could one day end up believing... for no good reason, that the floor to the building you're walking on is safe. Or that you won't get in an accident if you drive drunk. Why? Oh... no real reason. Just kind of want to believe that... hmm...

...or he's going to call the wrong guy 'faggot' and get his little ass beat to a fucking pulp.

Posted by archie Even if it were true, the fact that people who dislike queers are not afraid of them does not make the term homophobia a misnomer. Homophobia means fear of homosexuals or homosexuality. A misnomer is something which is inaptly named. For example, the funny bone. Because it's not a bone, but a nerve. I can think of no more proper name for the fear of homosexuality than homophobia. Now the fact that homophobia is commonly used to explain why people have a problem with homosexuality is a different matter. There could be other reasons why people have a problem with homosexuality. What is your reason?

It is the same matter, the word homophobia is universally applied to anyone who dislikes homosexuals, regardless of the reason. Since there are few, if any, people actually afraid of homosexuals and the word is hardly, if ever, directed towards them then the word as commonly used is a misnomer. If the word was only used for those with a fear of homosexuality then it would be appropriate, however it is never used in such a way and thus is nothing more than a queer buzzword used in a lame attempt to demonize those who simply dislike homosexuals and their agenda.

Posted by archie I am also curious about what you mean by "actual homosexuality." I am going to assume that what people usually call homosexuality isn't "actual homosexuality" in the way you mean it. Otherwise, of course, humans would be extinct right? You said it yourself: "Actual homosexuality is not found in any species, or else they would all be extinct." I'm really trying to understand what you might mean by it. I think it must be something like this: If homosexuality were a real issue not something made up by deviants and weak-willed sinners, heterosexual sex would not occur and there wouldn't be any offspring. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You simply misunderstand or misread what I said. The vast majority of examples of animal homosexuality are by juveniles who would be better described as "bi sexual" and are usually sexually immature and go on to sucessfully breed. There are few vew examples where an animal is a homosexual. Other examples often cited include animals which will attempt to mate with anything around, and not with some concious homosexual choice. One example is monkeys where females have been found to mount other females and thus paraded around as proof of natural homosexuality. The queer propagandists fail to also report the same females also mount males, along with being mounted and mated themselves by males of the species. Hardly the smoking gun gays make out such behavior to be.

Can you cite any example where a particular species has a high rate of monogomous homosexual couplings?

We could also assume since homosexuality in humans is a mental disorder that similar mental illness could be found in animals as well. It still doesn't make it something to encourage.

I wouldn't want to call the wrong guy a "faggot", so tell me Sam ... are you the right guy to call a "faggot"? I bet you're still thinking about beating and fucking little asses to a pulp.

Posted by MrGreenJeans there are few, if any, people actually afraid of homosexuals

Untrue statement

Posted by MrGreenJeans ["homophobia"] is nothing more than a queer buzzword used in a lame attempt to demonize those who simply dislike homosexuals and their agenda.

Untrue statement. "Homophobic" describes you exactly.
Phobia: An extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

Posted by MrGreenJeans You simply misunderstand or misread what I said.

Untrue statement. You didn't say what you meant, but it doesn't mater much since nothing that you say is truthful.

Posted by MrGreenJeans homosexuality in humans is a mental disorder

Untrue statement.

Posted by MrGreenJeans I wouldn't want to call the wrong guy a "faggot", so tell me Sam ... are you the right guy to call a "faggot"? I bet you're still thinking about beating and fucking little asses to a pulp.

You are a sad person.