Posted by MutantMandias Why are we doing this? He is clearly not willing or able to have a discussion based on anything other than hatred and trolling.

Yes yes, I know. But, as an atheist, I like to believe that people are capable of being good. Unlike people who fantasize that there is some fairy tale creature who requires them to be good, but still tortures and kills indiscriminately, I think that we are responsible for helping each other to improve and be the best people we can be. That is why I occasionally try to see past his hatred and bile, offering a chance for him to open up his heart to the message of human dignity.

Posted by MutantMandias Yes yes, I know. But, as an atheist, I like to believe that people are capable of being good. Unlike people who fantasize that there is some fairy tale creature who requires them to be good, but still tortures and kills indiscriminately, I think that we are responsible for helping each other to improve and be the best people we can be. That is why I occasionally try to see past his hatred and bile, offering a chance for him to open up his heart to the message of human dignity.

I don't think religion - or lack thereof - has any relevance to general common decency. It doesn't matter what the religion entails either. There are plenty of religious people who are assholes. There are plenty of athiests who are assholes. There are probably plenty of people who are completely indifferent to religion that are assholes too. I think people are all neutral deep down. We all are perfectly capable of acting "good" or "evil". Some just act nicer more often than others.

One's capability of being good is also of no consequence to their sanity and intelligence. You can try to "re-educate" a psychotic imbecile until your throat bleeds, but it probably will not do any good.

If said psychotic imbecile consciously refuses to acknowledge information, think in a different perspective, or even have the common decency to be polite every so often, they won't. You can attempt to talk sense into a man, but you cannot force them to accept it. The only thing that can change them is THEM.

But I am perfectly content with continuing this discussion if it means ignoring other volatile individuals. Or we can talk about anal again. Your call.

There is truly no reason for this thread to continue.

Have I ever mentioned how beautiful you are when you talk about anal?

Sorry to bump this but here's a comic created by a pastor for mainstream Christians to educate them about the "gay lifestyle"

If you thought Caligula was hilarious.......

http://www.ep.tc/problems/28/01.html

I peed a bit.

I knew MGJ was getting his ideas from somewhere...

Wow.


Most "left-handed" people report that the first time they masturbated, they used their left hand. Conversely, 96% of right-handed people say that they used their right hand.

The first masturbation seems to be of considerable importance.

Posted by Esoterik Sorry to bump this but here's a comic created by a pastor for mainstream Christians to educate them about the "gay lifestyle" If you thought Caligula was hilarious....... http://www.ep.tc/problems/28/01.html

i found this disturbing.

Posted by Esoterik Sorry to bump this but here's a comic created by a pastor for mainstream Christians to educate them about the "gay lifestyle" If you thought Caligula was hilarious....... http://www.ep.tc/problems/28/01.html

Wow, teh gheys are having all the sex! And they're all hairdressers, too, apparently.

Apparently, having all of that gay sex takes up so much time that Mitt Romney's newly hired foreign policy spokesman had to resign because he was falling behind (get it? falling behind in his gay sex!)

Posted by Samurai i found this disturbing.

It's very disturbing with so much vicious hatred and mean-spiritedness behind it. I wish I could say that comic, from 1984, was a relic of the past.

But the truth is (which everyone knows) there's still absolute blistering hatred of gays going on, being perpetuated in the Christian community.

Just this year, in 2012, a prominent pastor has this to say about gay men (note that like the comic above, these people feel the need to be as graphic and descriptive as possible):

Pastor Patrick Wooden: The God of the Bible made the human sperm, the God of the Bible designed it and it was not designed to be emptied into an area that is filled with feces, there is nothing for it to germinate with, it will most certainly mean the extinction of the human race. My belief is that if the medical community would just step forward and just would share with the American people what happens to the male anus, the problems that homosexuals have with their rectums, the damage that is done, the operations that are needed to sew up their bodies if you will, and how many of the men don’t even give these stitches time to heal before they are back out there practicing that wicked behavior. Some are bleeders, men who are not turned off by ingesting the feces of other men.

…If the truth was told, people would literally gag and no one would want to be in a lifestyle like that. Who wants to practice anything that is going to ultimately lead a grown man to about the time he’s in his 40s or 50s, or what not, having to wear a diaper or a butt plug just to be able to contain their bowels?

Ok where do people come up with this crap?! Why the fixation on graphic and gross details that are clearly made up out of thin air?

They say that those who are outspoken about gays are likely to be repressed themselves. I think a clue here is the fixation on graphic descriptions of sex acts, it's almost like a pathology. Someone who uses this kind of language is clearly fixated on imagining the most bizarre stuff possible, you just have to wonder why.........

I mean, if you're not attracted to men, then don't have sex with men. But to be obsessed with what others do in their bedrooms, and to sit around and imagine the most bizarre shit you can think of, and rant about it, why?

Oh and in my opinion Fred Phelps isn't even the worst of them. He and a handful of people show up once awhile with their signs. But at least his congregation is only a handful of immediate family members.

The worst out there are the mega churches, churches both large and small, where pastors are raining genuine Old Testament hellfire and damnation on gays every Sunday to large crowds of people. And honestly black Baptist churches are some of the worst offenders of whipping up hate talk.

Here's Al Sharpton speaking out against black anti-gay mega churches in 2009:

"There is something immoral and sick about using all of that power to not end brutality and poverty, but to break into people's bedrooms and claim that God sent you."

"It amazes me when I looked at California and saw churches that had nothing to say about police brutality, nothing to say when a young black boy was shot while he was wearing police handcuffs, nothing to say when they overturned affirmative action, nothing to say when people were being [relegated] into poverty, yet they were organizing and mobilizing to stop consenting adults from choosing their life partners."

"I am tired," he went on, "of seeing ministers who will preach homophobia by day, and then after they're preaching, when the lights are off they go cruising for trade...We know you're not preaching the Bible, because if you were preaching the Bible we would have heard from you. We would have heard from you when people were starving in California--when they deregulated the economy and crashed Wall Street you had nothing to say. When Bush took us to war chasing weapons of mass destruction that weren't there you had nothing to say. But all of a sudden, when Proposition 8 came out, you had so much to say, but since you stepped in the rain, we're going to step in the rain with you."

as i have often stated, i love it when the noisy hateful 'pastors' get caught in a gay tryst somewhere... the smell of hypocrisy is just wonderful.

The thing about that 'comic' link was that not all gay folks are like that. I mean, I pretty fucking far from a hairdresser or a queen. I keep my sexuality to myself and no one need know. I speak about it on this forum because there is a certain level of anonymity that I enjoy here and feel comfortable enough with most of you to talk about it. Here at home, should the truth come out, I would have to move. How's that for sad?

maybe when the truth comes out you can make a whiney youtube video and off yourself? You must be ashamed of your perverse inclinations to hide it from everyone and live in constant fear. It sounds to me like you know you're doing something wrong.

Posted by MrGreenJeans maybe when the truth comes out you can make a whiney youtube video and off yourself? You must be ashamed of your perverse inclinations to hide it from everyone and live in constant fear. It sounds to me like you know you're doing something wrong.

actually, its because i live in a town filled with ignorant bigots like you and i don't need the hassle of having to defend myself all the time.

i liked it better when you were banned.

Posted by Samurai actually, its because i live in a town filled with ignorant bigots like you and i don't need the hassle of having to defend myself all the time. i liked it better when you were banned.

Only a matter of time before it happens again methinks.

Keep telling yourself that Sam, it must be everyone else ... not your sick perversion. They should accept every sort of deviant behavior, and if they don't they must be the ones who are wrong.

It is a proven fact that belief in God is a sick perversion.

Oh look, he got the banhammer. Clearly I am the next Nostradamus.