Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby I'm stupid, yet i prove you wrong at every step? I'm glad most of my friends and family are in the military, bc if not I would assume everyone in the armed forces was as dumb and bigoted as you.

A: Please show me where you have proved me wrong?

B: Please show me where I have been bigoted?

C: So much Ad hominem, so little substance in every post.

Posted by MutantMandias Jesus fucking christ. Insane christians suck. Insane muslims suck. Insane people who kill people suck way more than insane people who do insane hateful things that spur other insane people into being more insane. All of them suck.

I think we all agree on this.

Posted by Soldat I think we all agree on this.

Yeah, I can get on board with that. Insane people suck. No matter what religion, or lack there of.

Posted by MutantMandias Jesus fucking christ. Insane christians suck. Insane muslims suck. Insane people who kill people suck way more than insane people who do insane hateful things that spur other insane people into being more insane. All of them suck.

Dude, I've said the same thing previously. Total agreement. I'm just not going to support the notion that the ass bag christian in FL has blood on his hands for this. If some offended muslim attacks him then yes, he brought that on himself. But this butterfly effect-like application of responsibility for actions of crazy people half a world away (even if they are predictable) is not something I'll get behind. The ass bag chrispy is every bit as responsible for these deaths as the cartoonists that drew mohammad are for the riots and deaths that ocurred because of their publication. Which is to say not even a little bit.

Posted by Soldat I never said it was all of them, but nice job reading. I am trying to figure out why Islam seems to breed extremism at a rate that dwarfs every other religion on earth.

I think that's a valid question, and one that deserves examination. The easy, bigoted answer would be "Those people are all like that." I think most thinking people know that's not true, simply because we're not at war with the 1 billion-plus Muslims in the world, only with a tiny minority. However, a lot more are being radicalized because of our actions. If the tides were turned, and Christian pastors and such were saying that there was a holy war on, wouldn't more Christians be radicalized? Or, if not radicalized, per se, at least driven to action? I'd say probably, except for a few differences:

Education is radically different in the West vs. the East. How much education does the average Afghan get? And what kind of education is it? Religious-based education (even if its fairly moderate, like Catholic schools in the US) tends to gloss over skills like critical thinking in favor of obedience to religious leaders ("Your pastor/imam/rabbi/fill in the blank would never lie to you!"). I saw a video on YouTube that was of a debate on Iraqi TV on whether the earth was round or flat! If religious-based information is the only information you have access to, how does that shape your opinions? If, say, Billy Graham got on TV with one of his paid specials and started to say that Islam was threatening our civilization and must be driven out, some people might be driven to action, but most wouldn't, because we have access to other sources of information that offer contradictory evidence. Most of the Muslim world doesn't have that luxury.

Political power: How many Muslim countries have a lot of political and economic power? Saudi Arabia and the UAE are really the only ones. If the US sneezes, the whole world catches cold. How does one influence world politics when one is powerless? Osama bin Laden couldn't invade the US with his vast armies, so he did the only thing he had the power to do: a sneak terrorist attack.

I've written too much already, so I'll leave it at that.

Posted by jeepdave Too bad for them, honestly. If their book IS their god, then they should concentrate on purchasing every single copy of it so that no one else could ever get ahold of it, or suck it up and deal with the fact that everyone does not believe the same way so some fucktards may just burn the damned thing.

To say that the Koran "is" their god is an oversimplification. I think it's more that because it is the literal word of god, to desecrate it is to desecrate god. They don't worship the book.

Splumer summed it up quite nicely, well put sir.

Posted by splumer To say that the Koran "is" their god is an oversimplification. I think it's more that because it is the literal word of god, to desecrate it is to desecrate god. They don't worship the book.

Right, yes, exactly. I had meant to mention that when I brought up Jesus crackers. Catholics don't worship them, but the holy fucking crazy nutbags think that it actually Jesus Christ that they are nibbling.

Posted by underdark But this butterfly effect-like application of responsibility for actions of crazy people half a world away (even if they are predictable) is not something I'll get behind. The ass bag chrispy is every bit as responsible for these deaths as the cartoonists that drew mohammad are for the riots and deaths that ocurred because of their publication. Which is to say not even a little bit.

This is not comparable, but it is interesting. This was actually a question on the Florida Bar exam a number of years ago (paraphrased):

Someone has put a bomb in a suitcase. A train porter who is stowing baggage on a train picks up the suitcase with the bomb in it, but accidentally drops it, causing it to explode. A quarter mile down the platform, there is a grandfather clock packed in a box, which is waiting to be stowed on the train as well. As a result of the explosion, the grandfather clock tilts and falls over, crushing a passenger to death.

Who is legally responsible for the passenger's death?




















It's the porter.

Why don't we just eliminate religion and make everything easier, I don't recall science telling people to go out and kill those who don't believe in your imaginary friend.

Posted by MutantMandias Someone has put a bomb in a suitcase. A train porter who is stowing baggage on a train picks up the suitcase with the bomb in it, but accidentally drops it, causing it to explode. A quarter mile down the platform, there is a grandfather clock packed in a box, which is waiting to be stowed on the train as well. As a result of the explosion, the grandfather clock tilts and falls over, crushing a passenger to death. Who is legally responsible for the passenger's death? It's the porter.

Only lawyers get that. I always knew I'd make a crappy lawyer...

Posted by .Kyle Why don't we just eliminate religion and make everything easier, I don't recall science telling people to go out and kill those who don't believe in your imaginary friend.

Eugenics?

Posted by jeepdave Eugenics?

Point taken, however; just like the inquisitions of christianity it's an idiotic ideology that doesn't exist in the world today thankfully.

Posted by MutantMandias Right, yes, exactly. I had meant to mention that when I brought up Jesus crackers. Catholics don't worship them, but the holy fucking crazy nutbags think that it actually Jesus Christ that they are nibbling.

I will agree with you on this. I almost laugh out loud every time I hear some radical Catholic moron say that their bread is the "body of Christ." I partake in communion and all, but even I am not dumb enough to think that I am eating Jesus.

Posted by HarvestmanMan that I am eating Jesus.

cannibal.

I used to think they were cannibals, but that would mean that they were sinning, so to be faithful you have to understand that God is made of wine and crackers.

Posted by MutantMandias you have to understand that God is crackers.

fixed.

Posted by MutantMandias you have to understand that God is crackers.

Racist!

Today thousands of people will be participating in the Philadelphia Zombie Crawl, which mocks the Christan celebration of Easter.

When this some UN aid workers are murdered as a result of this let me know.

Thanks.

Sleeping dogs, man.

Posted by maypost Sleeping dogs, man.

i've never been a fan of that addage.