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 pat420
 
Location: Scarlem
Gender: Male
I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts. . . .
 |  |  | The Don Valley Brickworks.
< on 11/22/2005 7:36 PM >
|  | | | I'm thinking of holding a free tekno event (see http://freespace.cc/23/forum/index.php ) at the DVP:BW and i've heard a rumor that there's still hydro connected there. When i was there last spring i noticed that they have a few security lights that are on that leads me to beleive that i can tap into that power. Can anyone confirm this or give specific details on the power there (ampres?). Some people have told me that there is 120V power there but its severly limited and they dont know where the breakers are.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Pat420
http://freespace.cc/23/forum/index.php
www.causmoeffect.com
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Avatar-X
      
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 1 on 11/22/2005 8:09 PM >
| | | | No, there is no power there.
Please do not hold "events" in abandoned locations. These locations are part of our history, and when you hold raves and dance parties, you dirty the history and spit on what it stands for. Your attendees will leave trash and smash the place up, vandalize and destroy.
If you need to hold a "tekno event", please use a public gathering space such as the Metro Toronto Convention Centre or Exhibition Place. Do not destroy our history.
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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Decoy
 
Location: Leslieville
Gender: Male
Oh I have slipped the bonds of earth...
| | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 2 on 11/22/2005 8:40 PM >
| | | | On the contrary, Av.
Pat, don't listen to him. I think you should totally hold this wild tekno-partay. But before you go for it, be sure to let us know well in advance when you want to have the event, and we'll make sure there's someone there that knows a whole lot about the place to help you "find the power".
It's a drag, it's a bore, it's really such a pitty
To be lookin' at the board, not lookin' at the city. |
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Phantom403
Gender: Male
MOOOO!
| | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 3 on 11/22/2005 9:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by Decoy
On the contrary, Av.
Pat, don't listen to him. I think you should totally hold this wild tekno-partay. But before you go for it, be sure to let us know well in advance when you want to have the event, and we'll make sure there's someone there that knows a whole lot about the place to help you "find the power".
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I'm with you Decoy....let's help them "find the power". Can I get a big hallelujah??!!
Phantom403
"Praise the Power Brothers and Sisters....Praise the Power"
*evil giggles*
The problem with the world is dumb people. I'm not advocating capital punishment for dumb people. I'm just suggesting we remove all the warning labels and let the problem solve itself. |
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| |  | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 4 on 11/22/2005 9:05 PM >
| | | | Be sure to post the date and time on as many public forums as you can. You never know who might want to show up for the fun!
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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mortimer
Location: teronno
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 5 on 11/22/2005 10:01 PM >
| | | | You know, on the one hand, I think these events have the right spirit behind them - focusing energy on creative use of abandoned spaces, the bypassing of traditional commerce, dancing the night away and the whole idea of everyone having a good time for free. It seems like good, harmless fun, you know?
Then, on the other hand, I read things like this about a past party on one of the two websites you posted:
"I understand there was some weird shit goin on upstairs (namely people passed out on H and a dude pokin them up smokin PCP.)
I didn't see it though... and I guess that's their call - not the most sanitary of conditions for that sort of thing though."
So, yeah. Good luck with the hydro. You're probably not going to find much help here.
yep. |
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pat420
Location: Scarlem
Gender: Male
I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts. . . .
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 6 on 11/22/2005 10:13 PM >
| | | | taken from the freespace collective's "who we are" page
"The main way that we create freespace is by throwing free parties. Parties, in the form of electonic music events, meant to act as spiritual rituals and social gatherings. Our parties are not raves. Raves are a form of corporate entertainment culture. Raves, like clubs, exist to suck money out people by subjecting them to ridiculous door fees, while at the same time selling them the paraphernalia of "raving" including designer drugs, designer clothing and designer culture. This is not what we do, and if this is what you are interested in doing, our events are not for you. Find somewhere else to spend your money."
"It is this interaction that creates a real community that exists outside of parties. A community that is working together, finding ways to become more and more autonomous and aims eventually to free itself entirely from economic and cultural dependence on the miserable corporate world. A community that is constantly growing, and which needs you, as well as others to get involved, to help it keep growing."
"The way we manage to throw quality events, while at the same time not going broke, is by adopting a DIY (Do It Yourself) attitude. We avoid corporate venues by reclaiming land that should belong to the people, rejecting the police and their idea of property laws. We avoid big names and instead focus on reminding people of the quality talent practicing in basements and bedrooms right here in the city. We do our best to acquire capital resources, (generator, large tents, PA systems etc) so that we don't have to keep wasting money on rentals. And most importantly of all, we require the help of the countless partiers, DJs, artists, and everyone who makes our parties happen. And far from detracting from the experience, this onus on DIY, on everyone's participation and interaction is what makes our parties better then corporate events."
freespace.cc
Please read what we are all about before you make your own presumptions.
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Nikita
Location: Toronto
Gender: Female
| | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 7 on 11/22/2005 10:17 PM >
| | | | Nah, I'm with Av, hold events like that in the proper space. What if news of this little soiree gets out and they put security there or cameras. I don't know, but if it negatively affects people's ability to U.E. there in future then don't do it.
I'm on the verge of tears by the time we arrive at Espace
since I'm positive we won't have a decent table, but we do,
and relief washes over me in an awesome wave. Patrick Bateman |
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Dark Shadow
Noble Donor
Location: London Ontario
Gender: Male
M.E.C.C.A Member
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 8 on 11/22/2005 10:31 PM >
| | | | I'm sorry but I am with Phantom403 on this one. If you guys want to put together a list of people and go dance your asses off than my hats off to you. Remember to post the time and day when the event is going to be held so that I and a few of my TO friends may join in the fun.
Is it BYOHC? (Bring Your Own Hand Cuffs) Because I know alot of guys that would love to join in that.
~giggles giggles~
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[last edit 11/23/2005 2:03 PM by Dark Shadow - edited 1 times]
~If electricity comes from electrons, does that mean that morality comes from morons?~ |
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pat420
Location: Scarlem
Gender: Male
I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts. . . .
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 9 on 11/22/2005 10:32 PM >
| | | | well this isnt the first event they've held. there have been several locations around the city, actually around the GTA that have been used and neither have had any significant damage and never has there been any police presence. we had one on saturday out by the gardiner and it went smoothly.
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mortimer
Location: teronno
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 10 on 11/23/2005 12:08 AM >
| | | | | Please read what we are all about before you make your own presumptions. |
I understand what your mission statement says you are all about, and have no problem with that (other than the fact that you state that raves are corporate entertainment culture - they may be now, but when they first existed, they were exactly what you're doing: semi-legal parties in abandoned warehouses. It was a community in the same way basement punk shows used to be. I'm old enough to remember what the rave and punk/hardcore communities used to be).
I also pulled that quote off the forum on the site you posted, www.causmoeffect.com What you are about and what the people that attend your parties are about are apparently two different things, and although I admire your intentions, I, for one, have no intentions of sharing information with someone whose activities will bring junkies and pcp users into the places I love that are of historical value and importance.
The fact that there is a bad element at the events you organize is unfortunate, and no reflection on your intentions or character. The fact that there is a bad element at your events, however, is a fact, and one that will keep me, and probably many others on this site, from offering up party location suggestions.
yep. |
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~pandora~
Location: guelph/toronto
Gender: Female
| | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 11 on 11/23/2005 12:33 AM >
|  | | | it would be fun to party at an abandoned site like brickworks but theres no way you can justify having a party that will risk all of the fun ue's have there
p.s. if you dont think your partiers will damage anything why not have your 'social gathering' at your own place?
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kowalski
| | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 12 on 11/23/2005 12:43 AM >
| | | | Given that the Brickworks *is* an ongoing effort in reclaiming land that should belong to the people, you're hardly breaking new ground there, in fact you'd be acting in a manner counterproductive to that goal by doing something that a) endangers the architectural artifacts of history present at that site and b) risks making the site more difficult to access by the radicalized, underground public.
These events are best held in spaces like the wasteland underneath the Gardiner or in empty warehouses. Complicated, historical structures such as the Brickworks and R.L. Hearn are not conducive to a party like this: they are far less safe for their participants (I cringe at the idea of someone trying to hold an event like this at Hearn) and far more of historical value and access is put at risk by the proceedings. For your winter events, there is a lot of abandoned warehouse / flat-floor assembly space around the city, and I'd imagine there are people here who would even be willing to help you identify such spaces as an alternative to the significant industrial/power abandonments in the city.
We can't get rid of you, and I'm willing to ascribe some merit to what you're trying to achieve, but the places you're looking to hold your parties in are not well-conceived and not acceptable to the people here. If you're going to have any degree of positive relations with the urban exploration community in this city, you are going to have to recognize from the outset that the city's most significant abandonments should not play host to your parties.
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pat420
Location: Scarlem
Gender: Male
I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts. . . .
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 13 on 11/23/2005 12:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by mortimer
I admire your intentions, I, for one, have no intentions of sharing information with someone whose activities will bring junkies and pcp users into the places I love that are of historical value and importance.
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i agree.. i was at another one of thier events that was held in Bancroft, ON and there was nobody there like that. the unfortunate fact is that nomatter how well you try to keep the "bad element" out theres no way to keep them out. at the bancroft show there werent any crackheads because crackheads can't afford to drive 300KM to bancroft but they can afford 2.50 to take the TTC anywhere in toronto.
those people dont reflect the ideals of the free tekno scene and they shouldn't be allowed to come but at a free party we can't afford bouncers so..what can ya do?
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CopySix
Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Agent of the System
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 14 on 11/23/2005 12:52 AM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Be sure to post the date and time on as many public forums as you can. You never know who might want to show up for the fun!
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Exactly! Dude! - 5-OH, 5-OH. How'd they find out??
I am in concurrence with Av.
Move this sort of thing to another forum more suited to the event.
I acknowledge kowalski's point which has merit as well but cannot see the abandonments left as it was found before said event taking place.
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pat420
Location: Scarlem
Gender: Male
I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts. . . .
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 15 on 11/23/2005 12:53 AM >
| | | | actually the way it works is that we dont post the location. a map point is posted at an intersection where you have to talk to a person and after enough people are there we walk to the location.
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 16 on 11/23/2005 12:58 AM >
| | | | But you just posted the location...
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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pat420
Location: Scarlem
Gender: Male
I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts. . . .
| | | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 18 on 11/23/2005 2:47 AM >
| | | | 5-0 dosnt give a shit about parties at the bricks. theres a bunch of high school kids that party there all the time and they've never been raided. Either way I can see that this isnt the right forum for this discussion so i'll give it up. anyone who may be interested in this kind of event head over to the http://freetekno.toronto.on.ca/ forum or www.causmoeffect.com I am still interested in UE tho around the city as i'm new to the area (just moved for school) and i'll probably be at the meet on saturday with a posse from Residence that also wants to get into UE, its the same group that came to the Ellesmere & Morningside Prof/Arts building today (pics to be posted shortly).
-pat
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Bobtheallmighty
 
Location: Somewhere over london, Ontario
Gender: Male
gotta climb.
| | Re: The Don Valley Brickworks.
<Reply # 19 on 11/23/2005 2:54 AM >
| | | | yes but can anyone here really trust you not to come UEing purely for the sake of finding someplace to have a large scale party?
-bob
" <Samurai> you know, we aren't as far removed from animals as we'd like to think... i still have bowel movements that border on mystical... i mean almost orgasmic" |
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