Posted by MrMusik Has it been proven that it actually was the accelerator assembly? Last I knew they didn't really know... call me one cold bastard, but I hope they find it is a bug in the firmware of the computer. Then the families of the people who have died can sue the hell out of Toyota.

Yes it has been confirmed that is the problem.

Why so malicious towards Toyota or any company for that matter? Seems to me that to wish that an overall successful company where tens of thousands of people are employed (and paid quite well i might add) is kind of sick. You may not like them or their cars, but to hope a company gets fucked...which basically means so will many employees.... pretty ignorant in my opinion

Posted by DelbertGrady Toyota usually doesn't have many recalls, which is probably why it is such big news. I think most drivers though aren't really sure what the little N means. I mentioned to a lady at work (Camry driver) that you can still stop without the car running. She looked at me like I was nuts.

it's like i have been saying... people are stupid.
a car will stop with the engine off, just stand on the brakes stupid.
i think you should have to take 1)a basic automotive anatomy course and 2)an emergency situations course (vehicle recovery, stuck throttle, stalled engine, etc)
Toyota owners, the majority of them, are people who are in most cases the ones you see at full service gas stations because they don't know how the gas pump works, or go to a car wash because the have no idea how to wash a car... the list goes on.

Well, Toyota has played their cars up to sweetness, sunshine and light on four wheels at the expense of other automakers. They deserve to be taken down a peg or two. Their cars are not any better than anything else, i don't give a fuck what the motoring weenies say. In my opinion, most of them are on the payroll of these import manufacturers anyway.
Fuck toyota.

there. does that make you feel better about yourself, Oddspot old chum?

Posted by Samurai it's like i have been saying... people are stupid. a car will stop with the engine off, just stand on the brakes stupid. i think you should have to take 1)a basic automotive anatomy course and 2)an emergency situations course (vehicle recovery, stuck throttle, stalled engine, etc) Toyota owners, the majority of them, are people who are in most cases the ones you see at full service gas stations because they don't know how the gas pump works, or go to a car wash because the have no idea how to wash a car... the list goes on. Well, Toyota has played their cars up to sweetness, sunshine and light on four wheels at the expense of other automakers. They deserve to be taken down a peg or two. Their cars are not any better than anything else, i don't give a fuck what the motoring weenies say. In my opinion, most of them are on the payroll of these import manufacturers anyway. Fuck toyota. there. does that make you feel better about yourself, Oddspot old chum?

Yep, the general public is pretty dumb when it comes to their car.

Just curious... side by side, head to head, a '98 Lumina is as good as a '98 Camry?

Posted by DelbertGrady Just curious... side by side, head to head, a '98 Lumina is as good as a '98 Camry?

Tee hee!!!

Most '98 Camrys still have rocker panels and don't have chronic head gasket/intake gasket issues. Just sayin'

Last I heard Ford was now being pulled into this mess because they use the same pedals in Europe. Our repair guys have this problem fixed in about 5 minutes. Also, only a limited amount of Toyotas actually have this problem happen. The part thats failing was made in Toronto, shipped to us, and installed by us. Next week we can take all the time off we like or come in and clean. So the talk around the plant is in two weeks we'll be asked to do the same thing. Our Lexus plant is still running like normal, around 350 per shift. Just some stuff from a guy that actually works in the plant.

Posted by gtbikes51 Last I heard Ford was now being pulled into this mess because they use the same pedals in Europe. Our repair guys have this problem fixed in about 5 minutes. Also, only a limited amount of Toyotas actually have this problem happen. The part thats failing was made in Toronto, shipped to us, and installed by us. Next week we can take all the time off we like or come in and clean. So the talk around the plant is in two weeks we'll be asked to do the same thing. Our Lexus plant is still running like normal, around 350 per shift. Just some stuff from a guy that actually works in the plant.

the part was made by CTS - Toronto for your particular plant and the Woodstock plant (from what I've read)
The US plants manufacturing other Toyota's affected by the same problem utilize other suppliers for the part

Sam is for sure going to be all "Ah Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when Toyota fixes the problem, and goes on its merry way like it never happened, and make up money lost in 1 month.

Posted by big dave Sam is for sure going to be all "Ah Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when Toyota fixes the problem, and goes on its merry way like it never happened, and make up money lost in 1 month.

"GM Acquires Toyota for 100 yen"

Posted by Agent Skelly "GM Acquires Toyota for 100 yen"

You mean "GM borrows 100 yen and acquires Toyota".

Posted by big dave You mean "GM borrows 100 yen and acquires Toyota".

No, you mean "GM Repays 100 yen with interest" :p

samurai still says fuck toyota.

http://money.cnn.c...l/index.htm?hpt=T1

Bad week for Japanese car makers. Honda recalls 650,000 cars

Toyota to Sam is like Republicans to Sam. Even if he liked em a little he would never admit it

Double. Sorry

Posted by jeepdave Toyota to Sam is like Republicans to Sam. Even if he liked em a little he would never admit it

Samarui likes some Japanese cars but he really does not care for the attitude that some of manufacturers have.

Posted by Agent Skelly Samarui likes some Japanese cars but he really does not care for the attitude that some of manufacturers have.

Oh, I understand that. But he really does seemed irked by Toyota particulary. Meh, I likey they trucks myself. Well the older ones.

Posted by jeepdave Oh, I understand that. But he really does seemed irked by Toyota particulary. Meh, I likey they trucks myself. Well the older ones.

The only one I don't like is the one with the extended cab windows that are longer then the cab window. Looks silly
i think there's an isuzu that was like that too

Posted by jeepdave Oh, I understand that. But he really does seemed irked by Toyota particulary. Meh, I likey they trucks myself. Well the older ones.

Well the Tacoma is not even the good truck that Toyota makes for North America. The HiLux which is sold around the world is the famous truck.

Ah, the HiLux. Awesome.

Posted by Agent Skelly Well the Tacoma is not even the good truck that Toyota makes for North America. The HiLux which is sold around the world is the famous truck.

yeah but most americans and canadians are too fucking stupid to know that.
they see the ad that uses clips from the "top Gear" episode (Which was a diesel to start with) and think, 'oh my tacoma is that tough!'
um, no, pickles... have another glass of shut the fuck up.