Posted by MrGreenJeans Everything I say is a lie. Has your head exploded yet?

Do you have anything even remotely intelligent to add to this discussion? or are you going to spout horseshit every post?

I was raised Catholic, I used rubbers, then got a vasectomy. Hell awaits? No. But I don't have 34 crotch fruit running around my trailer while I work 90 hours a week and wonder why they are flunking out of school. I kinda agree w/the "don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex" people; but I also know that some fucker's cock is right now rock-hard on viagra he got for free and he's ready to it use on some woman who has to pay to keep his uber-sperm out of her eggs.

Posted by G to the Race I was raised Catholic, I used rubbers, then got a vasectomy. Hell awaits? No. But I don't have 34 crotch fruit running around my trailer while I work 90 hours a week and wonder why they are flunking out of school. I kinda agree w/the "don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex" people; but I also know that some fucker's cock is right now rock-hard on viagra he got for free and he's ready to it use on some woman who has to pay to keep his uber-sperm out of her eggs.

Or, she could tell him to bag up. And mm, etc were you talking about? Taxes? What I make? Da fuk.

I'll simplify it for you...

Assume that my taxes go to paying whatever tiny burden is born by US tax payers for these private companies' health care plans to pay for birth control pills for a small portion of their employees. I'm fairly certain the the taxes of a small handful of people would completely cover any such cost.

You are hereby alleviated from the pain of your taxes paying for sluts and whores.

prolifers are always going on and on about the children... save the children, think of the children, what of the children... FUCK THE CHILDREN. Who's gonna pay for these unwanted, unloved little shits? Us. Me. Our taxes as the welfare state grows. Huh? Oh adoption? yeah, that's why most of the kids already out there can't get adopted, now add millions more? It's all about control control control... fuck you and the dogma you rode in on.

Posted by MrGreenJeans ...I couldn't care less that some slut wants someone else to buy her birth control so she can go bang some jackass who's too cheap, poor or stupid to buy a rubber. ...

So, my wife is a slut for wanting her health insurance to cover birth control pills? No one is asking for public money to cover the cost of birth control, and "sluts" hardly change their behavior based on the availability of birth control. And WTF business is it of yours who fucks whom?

Why can't you afford a condom? Why do you even need insurance to pay for your recreation? I'm sure your wife needs it for her cysts, right? If you can't afford it but your insurance *wants to* pay for it then it's not a problem. It only becomes a problem when the government forces them to cover it or worse yet subsidizes it with tax dollars.

gee splumer, maybe if all these sluts stop getting free birth control, free abortions and welfare for when they don't bother with either, and actually had to be responsible they'd either have to keep their legs closed or deal with the mess they made without some liberal holding their hand telling them everything is going to be okay and nothing they do is wrong. The answer to your stupid question is THE SLUTS PAY, not me, not you and not anyone who didn't make their mistake. The tired argument about "who's gonna pay for the children if we don't abort them?" is weak. Take away responsibility and we've got irresponsible people, imagine that!!

I got exactly the reaction I was aiming for. You stated: "some slut wants someone else to buy her birth control," the implication that women who use birth control to actually prevent pregnancy are sluts. And that, rather than using condoms (which I could, until this year, purchase using my flexible health spending account, provided via my insurance plan), if my lady wife wanted to, say, use prescription-only birth control pills or depo-provera injections, that somehow the health insurance plan that my wife and her employer share the cost of AT NO COST TO YOU, I MIGHT FREAKIN' ADD, that that shouldn't happen, because you don't approve of recreational sex?

The Middle Ages called. They want their attitude back. You conduct yourself like one drunk or asleep, belching out between your snores, "Yes, No."

BTW, to set the record straight, I had a vasectomy in 2004 that our insurance totally fuckin' paid for! Except for a $10 co-pay and $6 parking.

I might also add that I have been hitting the sauce in anticipation of an Ohio U. victory tonight. Such was not the case, however.

http://ergofabulous.org/luther/

I got the reaction I was expecting. It has nothing to do with your insurance company paying for your recreation, it has everything to do with the government FORCING them to do so and folks crying about not being able to screw around unless their insurance company is paying for their protection.

If you and your employer are paying for insurance with no government assistance they can cover your birth control, pot, suicide, whatever they want to cover through their contract with you and your employer and the government should have no say in it. When they get any government handout they shouldn't be wasting money on recreation, and every tax payer should be concerned about how their money is being spent. I know your liberal mind probably can't wrap itself around such an idea.

Posted by MrGreenJeans When they get any government handout they shouldn't be wasting money on recreation, and every tax payer should be concerned about how their money is being spent. I know your liberal mind probably can't wrap itself around such an idea.

Right, his mind can't wrap itself around it because any logical mind understands that every tax payer is not able to have a voice in every cent that is spent. A country is a large collective in which the many support the few. If you don't like the way it works, you can move to Antarctica.

Posted by MrGreenJeans I got the reaction I was expecting. It has nothing to do with your insurance company paying for your recreation, it has everything to do with the government FORCING them to do so and folks crying about not being able to screw around unless their insurance company is paying for their protection. If you and your employer are paying for insurance with no government assistance they can cover your birth control, pot, suicide, whatever they want to cover through their contract with you and your employer and the government should have no say in it. When they get any government handout they shouldn't be wasting money on recreation, and every tax payer should be concerned about how their money is being spent. I know your liberal mind probably can't wrap itself around such an idea.

Unless you work for a public institution or government, there is no government money paying for your health insurance. I don't where you pulled that from. I also don't think anyone is saying that they can't "screw around" without having their insurance covering their prescription-only birth control.

The gov't already sets standards for health insurance, so companies can't say they offer it and then just have some BS coverage. This is between the insurance companies and regulators. Employers don't get involved.

I find it interesting, though, that you equate sex with "recreation" as if it was playing golf or something, and that sex between, say, a married couple is "screwing around." I think that speaks volumes about what you truly believe, but have so far held back.

Posted by MrGreenJeans I got the reaction I was expecting. It has nothing to do with your insurance company paying for your recreation, it has everything to do with the government FORCING them to do so and folks crying about not being able to screw around unless their insurance company is paying for their protection. If you and your employer are paying for insurance with no government assistance they can cover your birth control, pot, suicide, whatever they want to cover through their contract with you and your employer and the government should have no say in it. When they get any government handout they shouldn't be wasting money on recreation, and every tax payer should be concerned about how their money is being spent. I know your liberal mind probably can't wrap itself around such an idea.

Successful troll is successful.

This may be an unnecessary bump, BUT, I just thought I'd share (as proof of concept). My university covers all contraceptives as part of my undergraduate health plan and the campus has not degraded into an all-out satanic orgy fuelled by heresy and facilitated by baby jesus buttplugs.

One can only dream. Sigh.

Edit: ALSO, calling sexually active women "sluts" is a pretty piss poor way of making your point. Here's why he can't just go out and buy a rubber - I suffer from a rare and untreatable condition that makes sex in a lot of ways very painful. It's exasperated by condoms as I can have allergic reactions to the material. So are you saying that I should, instead, not have sex with a man I've been with for over 4 years? Or, as a student, pay for the thing that stands in between me and children I don't want or care for? (Pills, by the way, are infinitely more expensive than condoms.)

Also also, just because I've chosen to terminate a pregnancy in the past doesn't mean I was acting selfishly or being lazy. Why should I bring a child into the world at the age of 16, when I wouldn't be able to care for it? Would you rather I left it to bounce around the social services system, foster home to foster home? Terminating a pregnancy in the early stages is no different than cutting your hair, trimming your nails or getting a biopsy. Just a hunk of replicating cells being cleansed from the body. I'm not a bad person, nor have my choices compromised my system of values in any way.

/rage

Posted by Lexi ...baby jesus buttplugs.

wants!

Cardinal George: Catholic Hospitals Could Close Over Birth Control Mandate

http://chicago.cbs...h-control-mandate/

lexi, get over it. If sex is painful don't have it. And don't use some bs about condom "material" making it worse. You do know they make condoms out of more than one type of material, right? I suppose you're allergic to everything.

"as a student, pay for the thing that stands in between me and children I don't want"

No, if you dont want to be responsible for the after-effects of sex then don't have sex. That way nobody has to pay for your risky recreational activities.

"Terminating a pregnancy in the early stages is no different than cutting your hair"

I'm sure it hasn't compromised your system of values, first you have to have values to compromise.

Perhaps if you just kept your legs closed when you were a kid you wouldn't have got pregnant, and perhaps - since you couldn't do that - if you had been made responsible by taking care of your own mistake you wouldn't have to worry about how much sex you're having. You can go on about how your a strong woman, your baby was a bunch of cells, blah, blah, blah. We both know you killed your baby because it would interfere with your social life. I'd glad I don't have to deal with knowing I killed a child.

Posted by MrGreenJeans I'd glad I don't have to deal with knowing I killed a child.

No, no. That's the way it is, my loves. Blame the Catholic church for not letting me wear one of those little rubber things. Oh, they've done some wonderful things in their time. They preserved the might and majesty, the mystery of the Church of Rome, and the sanctity of the sacraments, the indivisible oneness of the Trinity, but if they'd let me wear one of those little rubber things on the end of my cock, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

...me mind's made up. I've given this long and careful thought, and it has to be medical experiments for the lot of you.

Posted by MrGreenJeans lexi, get over it. If sex is painful don't have it. And don't use some bs about condom "material" making it worse. You do know they make condoms out of more than one type of material, right? I suppose you're allergic to everything. "as a student, pay for the thing that stands in between me and children I don't want" No, if you dont want to be responsible for the after-effects of sex then don't have sex. That way nobody has to pay for your risky recreational activities. "Terminating a pregnancy in the early stages is no different than cutting your hair" I'm sure it hasn't compromised your system of values, first you have to have values to compromise. Perhaps if you just kept your legs closed when you were a kid you wouldn't have got pregnant, and perhaps - since you couldn't do that - if you had been made responsible by taking care of your own mistake you wouldn't have to worry about how much sex you're having. You can go on about how your a strong woman, your baby was a bunch of cells, blah, blah, blah. We both know you killed your baby because it would interfere with your social life. I'd glad I don't have to deal with knowing I killed a child.

Obviously she does have values, just not the same as yours. Personally attacking her doesn't change any of the facts she stated. I wish I had more time to argue but I have to go play catch w/the collection of cells I'm calling my child, brb.