Posted by tekriter I'm sorry dude. I didn't know you were just making a joke. It's like those onion articles where it sounds like a real article until you get to the part about your soul getting sucked out. Who ya gonna call? Someday I'll tell you how I know evil exists, but I don't want to spoil the funnies. My gut hurts. I have to go pee now.

Shit, how else am I gonna describe such an experience????

Posted by jeepdave Sigh, none of it matters, the best thing the Devil could ever do is make you believe he doesn't exist. adiós amigos.

He does a great job.

Do you have a location, or can you set up a meet. If he exists it sure would clear up a lot of things.

Posted by Mr_Fiend Um, actually God mentions how if you are "luke warm for Him", neither hot nor cold, He will spit you out of His mouth. So if you are a hypocritical christian, that is worse than being a lost sinner (of which He says He loves). So if you were God, you'd be correct. And now your are tying to judge me based on my beliefs of which you dont believe in? I'm sorry, I wont humor you.

hey chief, you don't know my beliefs. ;)

for the record, i believe in God, or whatever the higher power is called. the difference is I don't presume to have all the answers, nor do I believe my path is the only path.

Posted by Mr_Fiend Um, first of, I had a first hand experience with almost being taken over by an evil spirit. Litteraly felt the essence of my being or soul, being pull into some sort of dark place.

Very interesting. I'd like to hear more about it. Not to make fun of you, but I'm seriously interested in what people believe are demonic episodes. I listened in on a Bob Larson exorcism session several years ago (I wasn't allowed in because I didn't pay), and it's pretty amazing what those people go through.

As expected, my explanation is entirely natural.

Posted by Mr_Fiend Um, actually God mentions how if you are "luke warm for Him", neither hot nor cold, He will spit you out of His mouth. So if you are a hypocritical christian, that is worse than being a lost sinner (of which He says He loves). So if you were God, you'd be correct. And now your are tying to judge me based on my beliefs of which you dont believe in? I'm sorry, I wont humor you.

Where does it say that?

Posted by jeepdave Sigh, none of it matters, the best thing the Devil could ever do is make you believe he doesn't exist. adiós amigos.

one of the best movies of all time.

Posted by tekriter Allah means "god". The god of abraham. all muslims trace thier origins through ishmael back to Abraham. If I'm not mistaken the jews might have something to do with the abraham guy - maybe that's why they call Islam, x-tianity and judaism the Abrahamic religions.

Yeah, you have half the story. You're right, muslims go back to Ishmeal, but the Jews and Christians come from Isaac, of whom Ismael hated. Ismael also hated Abraham and everything he stood for, including his god, the God of Abraham. So Ishmael went off and did his own thing. Look it up! Mohammad created islam out of hate towards the Jews and Christians and their god.

Posted by Mr_Fiend Yeah, you have half the story. You're right, muslims go back to Ishmeal, but the Jews and Christians come from Isaac, of whom Ismael hated. Ismael also hated Abraham and everything he stood for, including his god, the God of Abraham. So Ishmael went off and did his own thing. Look it up! Mohammad created islam out of hate towards the Jews and Christians and their god.

So is that why they call Jesus one of God's prophets?

Posted by tekriter Where does it say that?

King James Version
New Testament

Rev 3:16

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth"

Posted by Mr_Fiend King James Version New Testament Rev 3:16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth"

you never answered my questions.

Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby are you wearing clothing of two different fabrics? Leviticus 19:19 "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. have you had pre martial sex? 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. have you ever said oh my god? Exodus 20:7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain. do you eat food from pigs? Leviticus 11:1-47 And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ...

Posted by Mr_Fiend Um, first of, I had a first hand experience with almost being taken over by an evil spirit. Litteraly felt the essence of my being or soul, being pull into some sort of dark place. An experience I wouldnt wish on anyone. So thats how I KNOW there is evil.

I'm sorry for you. That sounds awful.

I have been in a situation in which demonic possession is the only possible way to come close to describing what happened to someone right in front of me. It was extremely unpleasant.

I have also been friends with someone who used to make a living investigating satanic cults and rescuing people from associated torture and abuse. Very unpleasant stuff.

Posted by Mr_Fiend Satan is/was angel who wanted to be better than God and no longer wanted to obey Him. So God threw him out. Now he obviously hates God like a bratty little kid who didnt get his way. And he will do anything he can to destroy what God created. The true definition of hate.

Now this is what I find interesting. The first two lines might be attributed to a single verse of the comic relief section of the Bible known as Revelations, but I'm not entirely sure how you have come to be an expert on the thoughts, desires, and goals of Satan. From whence that knowledge?

demonic possession? come on... get the fuck out of here.

Posted by Samurai demonic possession? come on... get the fuck out of here.

i agree.

Posted by Mr_Fiend King James Version New Testament Rev 3:16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth"

It seems in this passage john is writing to imaginary friends he calls angels.

It is unclear how he attributes this thought to god, or that he is even talking about belief. My best guess is church decorations.

The passage begins with this:

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead


What are the seven spirits? Let me see...God, Jesus, the holy sprit, satan, the ghost of christmas past, the ghost of christmas future and the ghost of christmas presents?

It ends with something about not being naked in church - maybe that's why he's luke warm?

or it could all be a lot of first century nonsense.

Posted by tekriter What are the seven spirits? Let me see...God, Jesus, the holy sprit, satan, the ghost of christmas past, the ghost of christmas future and the ghost of christmas presents?

God, Allah, Ganesha, Buddah, Jesus, Mohammed, Confucius?

I have long believed they are all the same.

Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby God, Allah, Ganesha, Buddah, Jesus, Mohammed, Confucius? I have long believed they are all the same.

manifestations of the same hallucination/fallacy?
but of course.

Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby nor do I believe my path is the only path.

That's very dangerous for you, because if you dont have a definite way to live, you are easily deceived by the next greatest thing that comes along.

Posted by Samurai manifestations of the same hallucination/fallacy? but of course.

They all have very similar teachings. Not exactly the same, but similar.

Posted by Mr_Fiend That's very dangerous for you, because if you dont have a definite way to live, you are easily deceived by the next greatest thing that comes along.

no. i have done a lot of soul searching and research and made up my own mind.

Posted by Samurai demonic possession? come on... get the fuck out of here.

No it makes perfect sense - if you believe the bible is the word of god.


The old testament mentions it once and the new testament mentions it thirty times.

Mark 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Sounds like great sex.

Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown

Or demonic possession could simply be a myriad of commonly understood neurological disorders that must have appeared pretty scary to iron age desert dwellers without MRIs.

Posted by tekriter It seems in this passage john is writing to imaginary friends he calls angels. It ends with something about not being naked in church - maybe that's why he's luke warm?

Just for the record, it is disrespectful language like this that makes it impossible for me to take you at all seriously.

Not that you will understand hat I'm trying to say... but there it is.