i drive vw cause its a community, its not like the honda and gm and nissan people that are all dicks and want to one up each other, the vw community is more family like and are all down for helping each other out. I know there are better cars then vw, but I like them, theyre fun to drive. If it wasnt for the community Id definately be rocking an E30, MR2, S14, EF or something of the works. All cars can be made nice if modded right, but just cause its a Honda or Nissan to brand it as rice is ignorant and stupid.

The whole 'community' thing works for just about any make, I think. Never owned a VW so I wouldn't know, but every time I pass someone with a first-gen 4Runner like mine they always smile and wave or give a thumbs up.

Anyway, on topic, agreed with the Lumina APV (as well as Olds Silhouette) and the Kia Soul, and pretty much everything else in this thread. I was at Warped Tour last summer and Kia had a tent set up with a new Soul out front, I was hoping to God they were kidding.

Also, my contribution goes to the Citroen 2CV. I've heard great things about its durability, but it's hideous.

Oh, and pretty much any Alfa Romeo ever made, no matter how good the guys on Top Gear seem to think they look.

heres some VW community videos
http://vimeo.com/3143797
http://www.youtube...atch?v=DzxgnSxWZbM

Posted by Nismo heres some VW community videos http://vimeo.com/3143797 http://www.youtube...atch?v=DzxgnSxWZbM

So a lot like this, except with VW's?

http://www.youtube...atch?v=Om9DXeycCco
http://www.youtube...atch?v=jCuahtsa3rI

i guess except saturns are ugly boring pieces of shit

Posted by Nismo i guess except saturns are ugly boring pieces of shit

A different kind of company,
a different kind of car.

I'm sorry but what the fuck is it about lowered pickups that drive me crazy? What the hell is the point? The whole point in having a truck is so it can
A. Haul Shit (Sometimes Literally)
B. 4x4 (through Mud & Snow)
For practicality you should be "redneck" jacking up the truck not lowering it.

Just buy a shitty sportscar; I don't think anything screams "DOUCHE" more than a lowered pickup.

And also: Soccer Moms on Cell Phones and the Honda CR-V

Drivers who have pissed me off today:

Four Lowered Pickups (Just because they exist; no further for a reason needed.)
Three different CRV Soccer Moms all apparently trying to give directions via the phone to one another.

I think I preferred the shitty weather where only people who had to drive did. And those who did knew to pay attention to the road and not cell phones. (And the lowered pickups were still snowed in.)

Posted by Nismo i guess except saturns are ugly boring pieces of shit

that's exactly my opinion of about 98% of the Volkswagens I have come across in my 25 years of autodrama.

you know what makes one community suck ass over another. It's uninformed people, people with no experience standing there looking at other cars and saying 'YOU SUCK." It makes people like me hate on those cars. Honda dicks are paramount on the list, but Nissan guys aren't even on the list. Figure that out? Ford Mustang idiots make me want to haul out a cannon, but then on the other side of my own GM aisle, fucking RWD GM idiots with their mullets and beer guts make us all look bad.

when i first started on J-body.org, it was great, people that had the same love for an unloved car that I had. And then the knownothings showed up, the bandwagoners, the kiddies and their happy time antics. And one thing became apparent... the members that were showing were nothing more than kids who's parents wouldn't buy them a Civic and they were bitter. All the community was gone. So then, I moved over to CobaltSS.net and their community is pretty good, even if it is starting to show signs of going the same way J-body.org did.

understand this clearly: I am not a fanboy. I have been driving General Motors products since 1996 (earlier if you count my Mom's Pontiac). They have been the most rugged cars i have yet to see and more than serviced my vehicular needs. I have considered foreign cars in the past, but have passed on them for various reasons. I have also found that GM products were easy to repair and cheap to buy replacement parts.

just because a person has strong opinions about a make of car, especially with the real world experience to back it up, does make them a fanboy.

Posted by Samurai but then on the other side of my own GM aisle, fucking RWD GM idiots with their mullets and beer guts

In my defense I don't have a mullet, and I drink maybe a twelve pack a year.




_{but I know what you mean}

Posted by SoNaive http://www.2fords....W%20Z3%20Coupe%202,8%20FV.jpg I Can't believe they actually built these things.

And I can't believe people actually drive them!

Posted by TheVicariousVadder http://farm1.stati...60e1ce6b03.jpg?v=0

its a VW caddy, its mean to be slammed and ratted out, my buddy has one with close to 300WHP

Posted by TheVicariousVadder And also: Soccer Moms on Cell Phones and the Honda CR-V ... Three different CRV Soccer Moms all apparently trying to give directions via the phone to one another.

Y'know, I've noticed that, CR-V drivers tend to be douchebags. I 've gotten cut off by and/or stuck behind a lot of CR-V's.

Posted by CDSbigsby Also, my contribution goes to the Citroen 2CV. I've heard great things about its durability, but it's hideous. http://www.tinyrev...26-citroen-2cv.jpg

I drove one of these that my boss imported for a large portion of last summer, ugly as sin, but that's half the fun.

I think there's something seriously badass about ripping around in a 2 cylinder car with less horsepower than most lawn mowers, and a body with the structural rigidity of a tent. If you hit a dog, you lose! If anything larger than a minivan passes you, the wind will blow you into the ditch.



And I really, really want one. But I have a soft spot for wonky foreign cars.

Posted by CDSbigsby Oh, and pretty much any Alfa Romeo ever made, no matter how good the guys on Top Gear seem to think they look.

Sorry, that's not ugly.

My entry? The Buick Enclave and the Buick Rendezvous.


WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!!!

The Rendezvous looks like a blinged out and gayed up Aztec, and the Enclave? Whoever designed that has some serious issues. As do the people who would actually pay money to own one. It looks like it has styling cues borrowed from a steam locomotive.

Also, the Mohs SafariKar

...Cuz everyone needs naugahyde covered body panels, a single sliding door and sealed beam taillights.

Didn't we already have the Rodius? I couldn't find it...

God's teeth... that's one fugly ride.