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Whoah. If that doesn't transform into some kind of battle robot, there is no excuse for its shape.

I refrained from mentioning the Multipla thing since I almost have a seizure whenever I see a picture of one.

That new Enclave is kinda.....mehhhh...but, I still say it's better looking than any of the Lexus RX crossover SUVs. Those have never looked good and I don't know how anyone could say different...very ungainly.

Posted by MattTrakker I refrained from mentioning the Multipla thing since I almost have a seizure whenever I see a picture of one. That new Enclave is kinda.....mehhhh...but, I still say it's better looking than any of the Lexus RX crossover SUVs. Those have never looked good and I don't know how anyone could say different...very ungainly.

oh, but those are Toyotas the most perfect vehicle EVAR.

Toyota vehicles are marketed to people who would be more excited about getting a new fridge than a new car I think.

Ha. I like how you put that. And even though I drive a 'Yota, I agree. Besides, I feel mine doesn't count because it's older and awesome.

And why is it that the Honda Element, by all other means a very versatile, useful, utilitarian vehicle has to be so fuckugly? The best way I've ever heard it phrased was that it looked like a Cold-War era Soviet ice cream truck.

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I love you man.

How have I missed this thread? While Porks got all the good ones on his two threads I'll throw some out there.

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***yeah Sam I know thats a Malibu in the last one but still....*

I have you guys beat, a car even Mandias would not be caught dead in

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Behold the Peel Trident Microcar!!!!!!

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Posted by bandi Toyota vehicles are marketed to people who would be more excited about getting a new fridge than a new car I think.

exactly and that's why the cars last forever. they are driven like an appliance.
oh and whoever posted that Fiero as an ugly car, you sir should be expecting an assassin at your door soon.

death.

Posted by Samurai oh and whoever posted that Fiero as an ugly car, you sir should be expecting an assassin at your door soon. death.

That would be me, I was going to post a Citation.....you know what Sam, since you so kindly asked..... even a X11.

Bring it death!

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Why is the Malibu ugly? Not my favorite car, but there's nothing really BAD about it...

Still I probably would have preferred the Monte or a 76-77 Grand Prix if I was going to go with the mid-size cars back then...lol

Posted by CDSbigsby Ha. I like how you put that. And even though I drive a 'Yota, I agree. Besides, I feel mine doesn't count because it's older and awesome. And why is it that the Honda Element, by all other means a very versatile, useful, utilitarian vehicle has to be so fuckugly? The best way I've ever heard it phrased was that it looked like a Cold-War era Soviet ice cream truck.

I was in a sub shop a few years ago when a flatbed truck pulled up out front carrying a recently punched in the face Honda Element on the back. The whole front and part of the side was destroyed. Two guys walked in and got behind us in line, as we walked out I said "See what happens when you buy plastic cars?" or something like that to the dude I was with.
It turned out one of the guys who walked in the shop from the truck was the owner that recently totaled it, and I guess my comment offended his free thinking, polymer-based vehicle driving "mind", according to glare he shot at us. Loser.

Posted by Samurai exactly and that's why the cars last forever. they are driven like an appliance. oh and whoever posted that Fiero as an ugly car, you sir should be expecting an assassin at your door soon. death.

Agreed. I love the Fiero. Yeah, Bandi just said that.

Posted by MattTrakker Why is the Malibu ugly? Not my favorite car, but there's nothing really BAD about it...

Its on my shit list because of the transition from this:

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that building in the background has been torn down

Posted by Samurai exactly and that's why the cars last forever. they are driven like an appliance. oh and whoever posted that Fiero as an ugly car, you sir should be expecting an assassin at your door soon. death.

i agree, anyways a fiero was a citation running in reverse! it even had tie rods in the back

the Fiero, as commented on in other threads, was actually a really good car and ahead of it's time.

Now, the pictures of the Citation that BK posted as a stab at my automotive sense are of the 1980 Citation X11. THe 1980 was nothing more than stripes and wheels. The REAL X11 did not arrive until 1981 and until that time, nothing like had really ever been before. Since most of you weren't even a twinkle in your dad's eye in 1981, i'll clue you in to some facts. Cars were dull. Japanese cars, German cars, American cars... DULL CITY. The V8 was on life support, only a couple of manufacturers knew how to do turbocharging and the Big Three weren't on that list. Everyone was going Fwd and a recession was going full tilt. Ford was still trying to convince everyone that Fairmonts and Escorts were the future, and the Mustang only had a 125hp 255cid V8 in it that year. Chrysler was just starting to peddle Omni's and K-cars and here was General Motors with their then revolutionary X-body. The high command of GM wanted to race the Citation in SCCA Class SS/B so the brough the car to John Heinricy and he worked his magic. They built the car around a suspension and the 60-degree 2.8L V6... They had three cams ground, went with the intermediate one that had mad duration and overlap. e a vacuum pump installed to augment the wicked cam. In fact, the early X-11's had to havUsed an aluminum intake, domed pistons to bring the compression from 8.5:1 to an even 9:1, went with larger intake and exhaust valves in the head, cross-drilled crankshaft, larger Rochester 2bbl, true-dual headers into an x-pipe, Muncie close-ratio 4speed transaxle and a function cowl-induction hood with two stack filter elements. The modifications to the engine also allowed the small-displacement V6 to wind to 7000-72000 RPM's which was insane considering this was 1981. The bread and butter V6 would wheeze to death and poop out under 6000RPM. Underneath, GM Performance engineers welded braces on the subframe, changed the rack locations (this mod went on to other less sporting A and X-bodies), went with stiffer struts, shocks and springs and enormous stabilizer bars. All of this was good for about 140-150hp and a top speed of between 120-130mph.

Inside, the car was stealth. There was an 8,000RPM tachometer to the upper right of the center-mounted speedometer. Below that was oil pressure and coolant temperature. Upper left was the fuel gage and ammeter. Below that was an anolog clock. Until late 1984 and the Citation II, the radio was mounted vertically just to the right of the instrument cluster an arrangement that is more hated than having center-mounted gages. The seats were about the same as an up-level Citation, as was the gearbox. On the steering wheel was a simple X11 bad on the horn button. On the trim piece across the passenger side of the dash was a simple "SPORT SUSPENSION" in red. (later cars simply said X11). The car was available only as the Hatchback (which was the more popular choice) or the more formal coupe (which was discontinued in 1982-83). There was never a four door X11.

A special options package of the Citation was called the Citation X-S which was the X11 suspension but with the 2.5L four cylinder or pedestrian V6. This car did not have the gage cluster of he X11 or the aluminum wheels of the X11. There were very few made of the X-S.

According to two articles I have from 1981, one from Car & Driver, the other from Motor Trend, nothing could corner with an X-11. YOu entered hot and kept your foot on the throttle or else! Finishing out the package were (huge for 1981) 14" 5-spoke aluminum wheels shod with Goodyear Eagle P215-60-14 rubber.

Here's another little factoid about the 'ugly' X11... in 1981, this car, which retailed for about $9500-10,000US would blow the doors off of a $25,000 Porsche 924 in a drag race. One of these days, i'll scan the article. So, it may have been an ugly car to you, but it was light years ahead of its time.

as was the Fiero.

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Understandable...lol. I like the 69 a little better than those but I still want a 68-72 car.

I know where there is one of those 73-77 Malibus abandoned in the woods, I still have to go and grab some photos.

Posted by MattTrakker Understandable...lol. I like the 69 a little better than those but I still want a 68-72 car. I know where there is one of those 73-77 Malibus abandoned in the woods, I still have to go and grab some photos.

the Chevelle/Malibu/Laguna S3 went with what was called "Colonade" styling in 1973. It was styling that was indicative of the 1970's, in my opinion. Personally, the two doors didn't look all that bad in the early years of the design cycle. 73 and 74 were classic in their own way. By 1975, they looked, dated and clumsy. The downsize in what, 77-78?, was boxy but fresh. Boxy sold, especially considering the tonnage that the car had shed.